It's really a bit upsetting that the edit option is only available for a short period of time. I wrote this before leaving to school and now I can't fix some redaction errors. At the beginning I meant to say "This guy" and lower down that it "gets" a little blackspot. If something is not quite clear please ask.

It does look like the DE I was growing for friend this summer. Looking on HMF, there's also a pink DA. Maybe that's what's planted with it.

"Darlow's Enigma" has no pink in it, opens from yellow buds. (I know this plant pretty well, in fact Darlow began calling it "Darlow's Enigma" because I showed him it wasn't the R. moschata 'Plena' he had been selling it as). The one I've seen that resembles it otherwise is what is grown and sold as 'Nastarana' (who knows if this cultivar has anything to do with the original Persian musk rose). It opens from pink buds and produces bluish leaves. It is also susceptible to Black Spot. But the flowers of your plant may be too simple for that one, or have differently shaped petals - I'd have to check.

If "pink DA" stands for pink "Darlow's Enigma" I don't know that one. There are of course lots of different kinds of old garden roses, with some introductions from the same classes having been made since 1865. And people also raise and plant rose seedlings that never get selected and named - your plant could even be a seedling from a batch that was generated by a commercial grower specifically to graft onto, is present on the site as a rootstock that replaced the rose that was grafted onto it.

From looking at hmf pics I agree it is not DA. The scent is not really spicy and not too strong. It doesn't make cluster that big either.

Embothrium, I see how the possibility of it being an escaped rootstock could be, but like I said I have raised some cuttings and they have been a little lazy in root making. it's been 3 weeks and they are only showing for some in the clear cups I raise them.

Since there's 3 of them and they are identical, I doubt they are seedlings, though I know it could still be the case.

Vaporvac, here's the pink one, I think it is a noisette and it is quite different from DA. There are no pictures on hmf of pink DA, but it says that it is its offspring. Could still be, but who knows. If anyone has an idea about that one please do tell.

Something that might be worth mentioning is that in the same time, this pink has made way many more roots, now circling through the bottom of the cups, starting from the beginning of the second week.

Poor rooting could be the conditions experienced, with good rooting occurring under other other circumstances. But batches of seedlings raised to graft onto do not have to be easily cloned kinds - each seedling is on its own roots the one time it is grafted onto, with vegetative propagation of the seedlings being used as stocks not being part of the process.

However there being three of the same in this instance does show that it is something that has been cloned. And does show therefore that there have in fact been times when the plant rooted well enough for this to be possible. But it still could be an unnamed selection that a grower had produced for their own use. Otherwise it might be a named selection used at least part of the time for grafting onto, that I am not familiar with. Vigorous roses with comparatively undeveloped flowers growing more or less on their own often are kinds that arrived on the site as stocks. For instance the Rosa canina selection or hybrid that is used, 'Manettii', and 'Dr Huey' - to name three that I have seen in my area.