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Citrus Newbie, Meyer Lemon issues in 6a. Please advise!

9 years ago

My Meyer Lemon tree is having issues. Currently its in a 1-1-1- of peat moss, vermiculite and organic soil mix. ( i wish i read about 5-1-1 mix sooner). I brought it in a few weeks ago when it already started budding as the rain was relentless and it was being drowned. I have not watered it since! With in the past couple of days I've seen buds popping form every node on this little guy, and i mean crazy amount. From what I've read on the web and the experts on this forum I'm faced with the symptoms of over watering. But like any desperate parent I'm in denial ( HA!)

I read that there is a Sicilian practice called veridelli which extends the lemon season by delaying blooming with water starvation for the 2 months in the spring. I might have unknowingly done this when i first got the tree as it was in a small 10" pot outside.

The leaves are yellowing from the veins out and dropping but it takes a long time to do it. The other ones are yellowing at the tip. I've been spraying it with a weak solution of water and Dyna-Gro foliage Pro as it appears the tree is not getting nutrients. I do not want to water as the moisture meter is indication 6 in low that its normal moisture content so i cannot lower the PH which is currently showing 6.5-7.

My questions after all this is are:

1. How bad will the tree suffer if i transplant it to the Al's 5-1-1 mix.

2. How fast can I see the improvement in the tree? ( I know every tree is different and they can be temperamental, so I'm asking for people's experience with their trees in the root rot situations)

2. Will I loose the blooms on it if I transplant it/ (I can afford to loose most of them but the smell is intoxicating so I'm hoping to keep some).

3. Al's 5-1-1 mix - if i split the peat moss parts to 1/2 peat and 1/2 compost what would the implications of this be? I am wondering if i would be able to utilize organic methods of fertilization when I move the trees outside in the spring?

I am in zone 6a Western New York and I'm not a newbie gardener but I am newbie citrus owner. I know this subject might not be new, I apologize for repetition, but I have not found the answers to the questions above on this site (or it might have been to late in the evening and it did not compute).

I look forward to any input!

Here are some pics of my suffering tree:

Thank you!

Adri


Comments (8)

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Steve! That is a great idea! I will do the vacuum thing and amend the soil in the spring. How frequently did you vacuum the air through the root zone?

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    After a soaking, 2 times a day for 10 seconds each time. after a couple of week 1 time a day for 10 seconds. Make sure your tree get good light. A fan will draw a lot of moisture out of the leaves/soil. use the fan after wrenching and slow down on fanning as the soil looses water. The trick is to get the soil drenching wet as the tree comes in and aerate and fan till the tree can use up the extra wet. Follow up with vacuuming only so the tree stays moist and aerated longer before the next soaking is needed.

    adrijanar thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 9 years ago

    I will do this and let you know what happens! Thank you Very much! I have supplemental light and will put a fan in there as well! I will post the pic of my setup as I'm putting a unistrut on the ceiling for the lighting.

  • 9 years ago

    How long has it been outside? When did you bring it in?

    I see a very healthy looking tree there for now and I would not re pot into anything that requires a bare root until spring..

    If that was my tree, I would stick the whole shabang into a different pot bigger than that one and let the mulch or soil in that pot act as a garden bed to wick away the moisture..That's it..Very simple and no stress..

    adrijanar thanked myermike_1micha
  • 9 years ago

    Hi Mike, It has been outside since early August when i purchased it. The leaves were a darker green then, now they're on a lighter side ( I can see some yellow blotchy-ness) . I've brought it in two weeks ago (seems longer but its probably because I'm worried about it :) I have small pine bark mulch that i can use in addition with some garden lime.

    The leaves do not look like the ones on your trees! Yours are beautiful deep green! Tonight i'll get better pics to post on this thread, hopefully I'm over-reacting and its a part of my learning process on how to grow citrus. I am waiting to water and perhaps the color will change a bit once I'm able to water with some vinegar.

    I have been spraying with dyna-gro foliage as of late but to counter the low humidity I in the begging i used some dyna-gro bloom, sprayed it a few times. Maybe that helped the bud explosion. You cannot clearly see the buds coming up they're coming form every node!

    Here is one pic that i have of it closeup!

    Thank you for all your help!

    Adri z6a



  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Adri, what is happening to your tree is very common when left to cold temps at night..The nutrients are just not available like they would be if the roots were consistently warmer..Once the roots warm up it will all go back to a rich green. I think you tree will be just fine..Just watch your watering practices and pull back on the fertilizer until spring time...

    You may think it's the spray of Dyno-Grow that caused all those buds..But it's more likely due to lots of sunlight and cool temps that triggered it...It's going to flower for you just fine as long as you give it TONS of direct sunlight in a very sunny window and twist the plant once a week to give all side of your tree equal amount of light so that one side does not suffer..

    adrijanar thanked myermike_1micha
  • 9 years ago

    Mike,

    Thank you! My Meyer is looking better already! I still have not watered it and don't intend to for a while as the bottom of the pot is still moist to the touch. It really seems to like the heat mat I have wrapped around the pot and its got the added benefit of drying out the soil at a faster pace. I think ill up pot it at the next watering and put the pine bark mulch around it to get it through the winter. The tree is definitely not dormant that is for sure so wondering if pulling back on fertilizer will make it not fruit or drop flowers. The smell is amazing!

    Steve,

    I was unable to utilize your vacuum advice, but it was not for the lack of trying. My pot has three holes in the bottom and it is too big for the coffee can. Hubby got all excited seeing me with the vacuum but it was short lived since I needed his help to lift the pot! LOL

    Thank you so much for your help! I will keep post the update.

    Adri z6a