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9 years ago

Not even winter and already having issues. Started to feEl hallow and soft so I pulled it and cut a cple roots and this is what I'm seeing. Thoughts please? Thanks, Alma

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  • 9 years ago

    Definitely rot, Alma. You will need to cut it back until solid, clear white tissue.

    It will depend how far it goes.

    Rick

  • 9 years ago

    And then what will I do with it? I will do that now. :'(

  • 9 years ago

    keeping cutting? Not much going to be left?

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  • 9 years ago

    Looks to be going up even further. Not sure what will be left of this plant, unfortunately.

    Sorry to see you having this go on.

    Rick

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  • 9 years ago

    So do nothing more?

  • 9 years ago

    I'd keep trying. I know it sounds desperate, but I've seen in Ukrainian forum people re-grafting and rooting tiniest pieces of adeniums branches. You could probably cut higher, than dry it and root it. Hope you will be able to save the plant. Or part of it....

    eeyore94sooregon thanked Elena
  • 9 years ago

    If you're really attached to this plant; you can start doing some very selective cutting since there's not much left. Instead of continuing to slice it, start cutting away a wedge along the dark part near the side. You don't necessarily need a flat surface of healthy tissue. If you can find healthy tissue before you run out of caudex, mix some cinnamon & rooting hormone, or Sulfur & hormone together, lightly coat the cut end w/ the mixture, then hang it to dry for at least 35-48 hours. The cinnamon & Sulfur are anti fungal. Neem oil is also anti fungal.


    Good luck.
    Rob

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  • 9 years ago

    Alma,

    You would need to keep cutting up until No discoloration. As long as there is Any discoloration in the tissue the end result will be rot. No point in trying to grow a portion of the plant if tissue is effected and you will not know this unless you cut it all out.

    Doing any type of cutting or grafting right now is questionable if scion portion is unhealthy/not growing and unless you can provide the conditions require right now to have a graft take.

    Not trying to be negative, but cutting back to remove and find out if any part of the plant is viable or not is really the only way.

    Rick

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  • 9 years ago

    Update, it never made it through. So far my only fatality, fingers crossed!

  • 9 years ago

    Its worth cutting a bit ahead from where grafted and regraft the stem on another rootstock ...specialy if its an expensive one:)


    if i had to, i would cut the 2 grafted stems up and regraft on not one but multiple rootstocks

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  • 9 years ago
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    eeyore - Do you know how to graft; whether it be flat, wedge, or bud?

    (Flat graft)

    (Unwrapping Wedge Graft)


    Rob

  • 9 years ago

    Current pics of same graft done on 6/26/16.

    The actual graft, and small branch on the Left side in the last pic above, are both now 8" long.

    Rob

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  • 9 years ago

    Very nice, no I don't know a lot still. Still learning.

  • 9 years ago
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    Here's a video that show's an easy way to do flat grafts. Skip ahead up to the 4:00 minute mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWQp89D3glM

    You will need some grafting tape.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UW9MNQ8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=31Q5EVXPGOWHI&coliid=I36OFTGF0F6CYJ

    However this is my preferred way of doing it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKajfgLnCU

    It just takes a bit of practice, and since you don't want to chance losing plants in the process; I made a tool out of a dowel to practice on. (This isn't the best pic, but you get the idea.) Place the "Caudex" end of the dowel into a pot of soil, and work from there.

    After that step, practice wrapping the tape around it off your chopstick; like the guy in the second video.(It must be a round chopstick.)

    Rob

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  • 9 years ago
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    I'm sorry, Alma. Which one was this? Where was it over wintering? Do you think you over watered or did it freeze...?

    Tyler

  • 9 years ago
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    My madam violet, definitely not because of freezing, they have been in the house, I'm thinking it had a little to do with watering and the pot. I think it might have been to constricted. But I never drench them. I just give them all about 1/2 cup of water each every 10-14 days around the base. So who knows.

  • 9 years ago

    from the same buyer too

  • 9 years ago
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    Reminds me of a glass of wine. Shame. This is my first winter too. Seedlings and plants. I lost one too. Totally my doing. Plum blossom. The one in this post.

    http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/4207192/my-newest-arrival

    I don't want to lose any more so trying to figure it out, learn from my mistakes and not kill any more. I keep reading where other forum members say how they've never lost one from under watering but lost plenty from over watering. That one, plus the whole wet plus cold equals rot.

    I think about that every time I think I need to water.

    Tyler

  • 9 years ago

    Tyler, I do remember that one. That's a sad loss! Yeah, I'm still trying to gauge it. I'm afraid they will start to shrivel without water.

  • 9 years ago

    So maybe I'm not so far off. I think my pots are 10-12". I've been given them about 1/2 cup of water, about every 10 days or so. Estimated guess. A little less for the smaller ones. Room temp. Is about 63°-68°

  • 9 years ago

    If your plants are totally dormant eeyore, try a 1/2 cup of water every 45 days or so. You also have to learn by look & feel. If they look shriveled, or feel too soft, then water on the conservative side, then wait and see if they firm up a little.


    Rob

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  • 9 years ago

    I'm gonna say that maybe 4 are in complete dormancy, where the others are not? They still have a cple leaves on and one is trying to grow a cple, oh so very slowly.

  • 9 years ago

    Alma, check by feel and your eye as Rob has mentioned. They are your best tools.

    An Adenium can still be in a dormant stage while holding leaves. Only consider them active, when you see the plant producing new growth. Once they break dormancy, you will see them start with new leaf buds. As this progresses, then start watering a little more frequent until you see them pushing out a lot of new growth. This will start when temperatures and daylight becomes more intensified.

    Rick

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  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, Rick and Rob! Will do. Lots to learn.