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cased opening height for 11ft ceiling

9 years ago

We're in the midst of construction and I'm all knotted up about the choice of cased opening and french door heights.

It's an 1890s city row house with 11ft ceilings in the living/dining rooms and 10ft ceilings in the kitchen and den. We have several 8ft high cased openings specified in the current plans, but these feel a bit low in a room with 11ft ceilings (and leaves quite a large strip of wall above the openings). To complicate matters, there are several sets of french doors that are also 8ft high. Something about that extra foot of ceiling height makes those 8ft doors seem "squat".

I'd love to increase the height of these openings to 9ft, but then they won't align with the 8ft french doors unless we did transoms.

Anyone out there with 11ft ceilings who has 8ft openings? Do those openings seem low?

Comments (8)

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Do transoms.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Doors that are 8 feet high are good. You really don't want any taller doors.

    You can add transoms in certain areas. However, keep in mind that if you add crown molding at the ceiling and if the door trim is wide, than you have less of a gap between the top of the doors and the ceiling. Also, if you use transoms above the doors they need to be proportioned correctly as well. You might have your designer draw up interior elevations with transoms and also with the molding and trim....With drawings you will be able to decide which is the best direction....

  • 9 years ago

    HA! We used to do the same thing with our couches, then our dog got too old to climb up :( And no, your house doesn't look dated at all - quite lovely.

    aphil02 The 8' doorways are nice, human scale IMO. We may love tall ceilings (we're doing one room with a tall cathedral) but let's face it, they have nothing to do do with the human form, it's just dead air up there so it seems important (again, IMO) to make sure other things like doorways relate to human scale.


  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I wouldn't go higher than 8'. As DLM mentioned any higher and you lose the human scale.

    Put the moldings around the openings, and one other thing you can do to bring the feel of the room down is to add picture molding at the 8' mark too. That will help bring the room down to human scale too.

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  • 9 years ago

    You might explore options that bring down the 11 foot ceiling to the 10' range. Like coffers or beams. That along with the uniform 8' door height can help to unify the space.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for these comments - some good things to think about.
    Several of you have mentioned visually lowering the ceiling or doing
    other things that make the rooms more aligned with a human scale rather
    than adding transoms. I guess this would make the rooms seem more
    comfortable? I suppose I thought I had hit the jackpot when we
    discovered three extra feet of ceiling space during demo! But most of
    the comments make me think I should do things to reduce the visual
    height.

    I really love this row house ( Montague Terrace and Montague Terrace
    ) and somewhat aspire for ours to resemble it. Of course, it has even
    higher ceilings than ours, but we'll have a similar paneled opening
    between the living and dining rooms that will be about 9'6" tall. So to
    some degree, I suppose that 9'6" opening dictates the scale for the
    room.Anyhow, thanks for these responses. I've asked my architect
    to try a design with transoms above the doors, which will mean dropping
    the crown in the 10' section of the house.

  • 9 years ago

    Should you choose to go taller than an 8' door, it will be a custom unit. That adds a lot of cost. So, it would be better to plan on the 8' doors with some of the visual aids that were suggested. I owned a historic home with 12' ceilings and 9' doors and transoms with large crown and case moldings. The previous owner had spent a small fortune on the doors. It's all about the scale.