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Questions about planting herbs in same/different containers

9 years ago

This year i'll be planting a container herb garden as well as a few berries and veggies and wanted opinions from experienced gardeners, I don't have any in ground space to spare so all of my plants will be in 1 gal or 7 gal root pouches or in a Mr. Stacky stackable strawberry planter.What I am hoping to plant is Basil, Thai Basil, Dill, Cilantro, Chives, Oregano, Rosemary, Mint, Flat leaf Parsley, Thyme, Sage.

I can easily plant each herb individually in the 1 gal root pouches or Mr. Stacky but I also wanted to know what I could plant combined in the 7 gal root pouch.The root pouches will be on trays and wick water up from the bottom. My novice thought is I could put the two basil's together, the Oregano and Thyme together perhaps with the parsley too? I am not sure what is the best companion for them or what their final growth habit will be like. I know the rosemary is a perennial and will get its own pot.

I usually buy herbs already started but was thinking of starting the cilantro from seed, and wanted to know what else comes up reliable from seed in your experience and whats not worth the trouble? and when to start seeds in the PNW?

My initial thought was to use the Mr. Stacky and do half Stawberries and half herbs but the compartments are so small I don't think the herbs would do well for long term. I now plan to use that for strawberries and pineberries and do the root pouches for everything else.

I really want to be successful and over the years I realize that the best tips and aha moments have come from asking others that already successfully grow these themselves for advice, I don't have much luck with people responding to my questions but I am hopeful to get some advice here.

Thank you in advance!

Comments (6)

  • 9 years ago

    I don't know how deep your containers are.Cilantro and Parsley grow deep tap roots and really need a container at least 12 inches deep. Cilantro will bolt quickly from any stress, but if you can keep it "happy," it will still bolt when the tap root hits the bottom of the container. I grow 3 plants in a 12 inch round x 12 inch deep pot, or 5 in a 14 inch or 16 inch round pot. You can mix Cilantro and Parsley in the same container.

    To start parsley seeds, start with fresh seeds, plant them in the final container (or directly in the garden if you're planting them outdoors) about 1/4 inch deep, and water them with hot (boiling hot) water when you plant them. After that, just regular water. The hot water (usually) breaks their winter dormancy. Plant several seeds in each place you want a plant, and thin them to a single plant when you have two or three sets of true leaves, Chives, Mint, Oregano, Rosemary, Sage, and Thyme are all perennials. Rosemary can be difficult from seed, you might have better luck from cuttings, even fresh cuttings from the grocery store. You'll also know the potential flavor of your Rosemary if you grow from cuttings. Pull most of the leaves off, leaving a few sets of leaves at the top. Cut the stem at a leaf node near the bottom. You can root directly in potting mix, or in any number of other rooting media. Sage, Thyme and Mint and even Basils can also be easily grown from cuttings.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks for the response Common, the 1 Gal pouches are 6" W x 7 1/2" H and the 7 Gal are 14" W x 11 3/4" H, I think I am going to do this based on what you said.

    7 Gallon:

    basil/thai basil - seed or plant

    oregano/thyme - plants

    rosemary - plant

    cilantro - seed

    parsley - seed

    1 Gallon:

    mint - plant

    sage - plant

    chives - clump from grandmothers garden

    For the dill should it be in the 7 gal or 1 gal pot? is it easy from seed or should I buy as a starter plant?

    As far as the cilantro goes, I plan on having to reseed and grow often, while the fresh herb will be used I have been doing a lot of Thai cooking and want them for the roots.

    My plan was to use a 50/50 potting soil and perlite mix with osmocote + as I have these materials already, will this work for those herbs/is the perlite helpful or not needed?

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you Woodnative, I ended up planting them this weekend and went with about 20% perlite, I wanted it porous but also to retain some moisture and decided on that as I was mixing, it rains pretty much year round except for July/August and I don't mind watering daily if needed then. I am not familiar with growing much from seed so this is a total crapshoot for me. I don't have a place to start them indoors so I am taking the chance outside, I did both basils, cilanto, dill, flat and curly parsley and marjoram from seed. The marjoram packet specifically said to start them indoors so I borrowed a grow light from my Lemon tree for that one. The others I planted and misted with water then tucked them under the eves of the house so they wouldn't get drowned by the rain. I'll go out and check the dampness daily to monitor, I don't have super high hopes of success but here's hoping nature finds a way ;)

    All of my plants I planted from small starters are doing wonderfully though so it wont be a total loss. I went way overboard and planted 3 kinds of Thyme- Compact, Lemon, Variegated Lemon, 2 Oregano's - Italian, "Hot and Spicy" , 4 Sage - Pineapple, Purple, Tri-Color, Berggarten, 2 Rosemary - Barbeque and Arp, Chives, and 5 kinds of Mint- Orange, Chocolate, Spearmint, Peppermint and Mojito mint. All of the mints are in their own 3 gallon pots. And I have two unknown sage's from last year that I didn't much care for have managed to come back but they have very small leaves and not much flavor so I am not sure if I want to keep them. I use herbs daily in my cooking and beverages so I am happy that I planted a larger quantity this year. I'll snap some pictures of them later so if any one is curious to see how they look. I also plan to post an update of two throughout the summer and fall for anyone curious about how the root pouches end up preforming for these herbs.

  • 9 years ago

    These containers are made of
    galvanized steel, spray painted with a primer, then spray painted with
    pastel colors. Drill holes in the bottom for drainage. You can grow
    a large assortment of plants if you tier your pots

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  • 9 years ago

    @Sammers510It sounds like you went with a reasonable to conservative dose of perlite. I go somewhere between 3:1 and 2:1 grow mix to perlite. (25% to 33% perlite). I also try to use a coarser mix for most herbs. "cactus mix" or "bonsai mix" works well, with perlite added.

    You didn't mention if you were growing other veggies/fruits. Some of those herbs make excellent companions to other plants, even in larger containers like your 7 gallon bags. You could grow oregano, thyme, basil or corriander in the same container with most tomato or pepper plants in a seven gallon container. One basil or corriander plant with one tomato plant has worked well for me in 16" planter pots in the past. I've also grown oregano with peppers in 12 inch and 14 inch planter pots, and I think thyme would do fine in that environment.