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Need help with lawn...

9 years ago

So I'm a new homeowner here, living on Long Island, and am trying to learn about proper lawn care and maintenance. It seems like people here have a good grasp and understanding about lawn care so I thought maybe some people would be able to advise me a bit with a few things.

I've been reading a lot about different turf grasses and trying to figure out what exactly I have in my lawn and from what I can gather I think maybe it's some type of Tall Fescue mixed with a bit of PRG in some spots where it was thin and myself or the previous landscapers put in some seed. I know that the previous homeowners had redone the lawn at some point and when it was redone it was sodded but past that I don't have much information. I'm currently away from my home but was there this past weekend and took some pictures. (For reference that key is 1.75" in length)



I plan to do some soil sample testing when I return home at the end of April, as well as put down my pre-emergent (Prodiamine), and was thinking dethatch my lawn as well. I had it aerated this past fall. Temperatures have still been pretty cold where I live and I'm hoping they stay that way a little while but will I be too late if I can't use pre-emergent until the 22nd of April? (I don't have a choice in the matter since I won't return home before then but just trying to understand what I'll be working with)

Also I've had some problem weeds as well as some new ones show up recently and wondered if anyone might recognize them. I'm pretty sure I have nimbleweed, which took me a while to figure out, so I picked up some Tenacity for it but have seen a few others and wasn't really sure what I was looking at...



I read about the deep and infrequent watering schedule here and am going to do that for this year and hopefully that combined with some soil testing and proper fertilizing I'll be able to really green up and thicken up my lawn. Thanks in advance.

Comments (2)

  • 9 years ago

    Deep infrequent watering is the most important thing. Don't let your neighbors talk you out of that. It is more important that mowing height (highest setting on your mower for your lawn on Long Island) or fertilizer (Memorial Day, Labor Day, and around Thanksgiving).

    Spot spray weeds in April. April is far too late for preemergent. It would be fine for a second application of preem, but you will be disappointed if you make April your first app. Again, deep and infrequent watering will be your friend here. Weed seeds need shallow and frequent watering to germinate. Grassy weeds like crabgrass will not be affected by something like Weed-b-Gon. You will need a grass killer like Grass-b-Gon for those. Careful not to get overspray on your good lawn.

    Northern grasses are hard to identify from a distant picture. They are easier to ID when they go to seed or flower. Fescue will remain green all year every year. Kentucky bluegrass will often remain green all year when well cared for, but some winters will turn it brown in spite of good care. You might want to mix some KBG into your fall overseeding. KBG is a full sun only type grass that spreads to fill in thin spots. Rye and fescue will remain in small bunches. Get enough small bunches and it behaves like a lawn. If you lose some bunches to activity, an insect, or disease, they will not recover like KBG.

    If you get swarms of beetles on your porch lights in May or June, write back. Those beetles will become grubs that damage someone's lawn. A certain amount of grubs are tolerable, but we can help you figure that out. Try to refrain from preemptive spraying insecticide or fungicide. Your soil absolutely depends on a healthy population of beneficial insects and fungi.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for the reply dchall. I won't let my neighbors talk me out of the watering schedule, not that I think they would even try and as for the fertilizing schedule and mower heights, that's actually what my father-in-law had recommended to me and consequently what I did last year so good to know that it's consistent with your recommendation. Maybe I'll just hold off on putting down the Pre-E until next year if it won't really make a difference to put down so late this year.

    I want to overseed this fall and would love to have a KBG lawn however I read something about not being able to overseed KBG into a PRG lawn and am just concerned that I'll spend a few hundred dollars on seed and then because of my grass type it won't take hold. I was hoping someone would be able to identify the grass type from the pictures I took but maybe they aren't up close enough.

    Any thoughts about dethatching like a time of year to do it etc? I had thought maybe it would be worth it to dethatch the lawn this spring, do my memorial day fertilization, and then right around Labor day when I do that fertilization I could also do an overseed (assuming my grass type isn't PRG) of KBG. If my grass type is a Fescue will the KBG blend well with it initially and would the KBG eventually take over the lawn with some help, without having to completely reno the lawn?