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Soil Ph level all wrong, plants in trouble, replace or repair?

9 years ago

I bought my house two years ago and removed some very old and not well kept shrubs and replaced a rhododendron. The man at the nursery was certain I had acidic soil based on the fact I have a mossy backyard. My front yard faces north so no direct sun.


Fast forward to this spring, my mountain laurels are basically non existent and my rhododendron is barely making it. I really don't want to till the soil and add elements to make it more acidic. I'd like the least low maintenece shurbbery as possible, with some color and maybe flowers: but I face a few hurdles...


no direct sun

ph level at 7-8

LOTS of hungry deer.

can I save these mountain laurels and the rhododendron or should I just replace? If I replace, what can I put in their place that will stand up to bad soil, no sun, and no deer? I'm not opposed to a ground cover as that leaves less mulching for me to do, but I'd much prefer shrubs over anything.


I also have about 6 thriving yucca plants I've learned to love because they are impossible to remove.


Rhododendron


Mountain laurels

Comments (4)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Where are you located? Garden Zone. And what means did you use to determine your soil PH.

    I see no evidence of high ph soil in your rhododendron, only deer browse. (your leaf color is not indicating alkaline soil)

    Deer are seldom truly hungry in my zone, more like opportunistic tasters. They rarely bother a mature rhododendron, but I did have a new (and expensive) plant damaged two years ago. Left in place, and sprayed as regularly as I can remember to spray it with deer repellent, it's recovering nicely.

    I added a row of 6 dwarf rhodys (small leaf, which makes them appealing to deer as are evergreen azaleas) along one side my drive, those have been almost irresistible. Each is encircled now with protective wire fencing. The fencing has no aesthetic appeal at all, but it's temporary (hopefully) and doing the job.

  • 9 years ago

    "The man at the nursery was certain I had acidic soil based on the fact I have a mossy backyard."

    So now you know that man at the nursery is a dork. My pH is mid to high 7s and I have moss.

    I agree with the above. If pH were an issue you'd have nutrient deficient plants. I don't see that. Just chewed up plants.

    tj

  • 9 years ago

    I Am in Cleveland so zone 5a I believe. I used one of those electric meters which I've read can be unreliable when it comes to ph. The soil in this area is pretty compacted and clay, even though we tilled 2 years ago. a lot of garden rocks too....I think at one point the entire garden bed were that white gravel that was popular in the 90s, laid over a plastic barrier, which I tried to remove as best as I could. I pulled out probably 3-5 5 gallon buckets of this


    For the rhody- besides blocking the deer, what can I do? Should I prune back and fertilize? I grew up in apartments so keeping a plant alive even to this point is a big accomplishment for me! I also see no evidence of any blooms wanting to emerge, same with last year....all the buds were eaten off.


    as for the mountain laurels- I do think I planted them too deep, I have some evidence of new growth at the bottom, but not much. Should i dig them out and replant, or just replace them at this point? Last year they were looking a bit sparse, nothing like they did when I first bought them. I got no blooms whatsoever from them last year and I'm pretty sure they weren't touched by the deer. The leaves were also turning brown, with one out of the 3 plants looking like a total lost cause.


    i have no issue digging up and starting over, I just want to make sure I plant the right thing and plant them correctly.




  • 9 years ago

    First have a good reliable soil test done. Your Ohio State University does not do soil tests anymore but the University of Kentucky or the University of Connecticut will.

    Mountain Laurel and Rhododendrons evolved in soils with low pH and will not do well if the soil pH they grow in is not in the range they prefer, although having adequate amounts of organic matter sometimes can buffer that.

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