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Red shrub rose recommendations please

9 years ago

I feel bad about going to my neighbor's house last weekend and while she excitedly showed me all of her new seedlings, I pointed out that she apparently planted bindweed. She had a lovely crop of them and when I told her that they would strangle all of her other plants, she agreed that we should pull them out. She is not an experienced gardener. The thought of pulling out a dozen very healthy seedlings has haunted me since and I could see her disappointment. She has a lovely bunch of coreopsis, cleome and nasturtium getting big also.


She mentioned seeing some lovely small red floribunda type roses growing as a shrub outside her mom's doctor office that she loved and I would like to get her a good one. They may have been double knockouts, but definitely not a single bloom. Can any of you rose lovers recommend something tough and mildew resistant that blooms a lot in red? Is that too tall of an order? I just looked at the Chamblee's website and quickly became overwhelmed with the choices.

I just don't do roses and need help from those that do, pretty please.

Comments (19)

  • 9 years ago

    Valentine is a beautiful red!

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked sylviatexas1
  • 9 years ago

    One of the red Knock Out roses, perhaps? They're hard to beat for repeat flowering.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked buttoni_8b
  • 9 years ago

    I've not grown it, but have seen 'Martha Gonzales' recommended for north Texas from a couple usually reliable sources.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked bostedo: 8a tx-bp-dfw
  • 9 years ago

    Martha Gonzales gets bigger than Valentine. Valentine stays pretty small. Also, I like Eutin.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked Carla
  • 9 years ago

    Pam, how large of a space does she have for this rose? Is she looking for a compact one or could she use one of a larger size?

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked carrie751
  • 9 years ago

    If she's wanting a small bush she can't go wrong with Valentine. It has the added characteristic of being thornless, or almost thornless. I also agree that Eutin is excellent.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked roselee z8b S.W. Texas
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Compact for sure. The max area she has is maybe 5 X 5. Great suggestions! Thank you all!

  • 9 years ago

    Martha Gonzales is very reliable and stays (at least in my yard) a nicely rounded shrub. Two others that are outstanding (here) for healthy foliage and good bloom are Europeana and Miracle on the Hudson, which has very large brilliant red single flowers.......even my husband noticed and mentioned that he liked "that one"!!! I looked at the pictures of Miracle on the Hudson on Helpmefind and they do not do this rose justice! There was only one picture of a specimen in a pot that I thought was realistic. I have both Europeana and MOTH in large pots.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked texaslynn19
  • 9 years ago

    I know that the "rose snobs" tend to denigrate Knockouts, but I don't have any problem with them at all. Have a few myself along with many antiques and old roses! I like them all!

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked texaslynn19
  • 9 years ago

    Doesn't the antique rose emporium ship? I haven't been in years so I don't know. For a 5x5 space, Eutin would be good, but, for me, Valentine blooms more. Martha Gonzales has smaller flowers that either of the others, but generally has more of them.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked Carla
  • 9 years ago

    Martha Gonzalez also has really pretty blue green foliage with burgundy new growth, and it has stayed fairly Evergreen for me. It does have short flower stems with lots of stickers LOL.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked sylviatexas1
  • 9 years ago

    Such great suggestions, thank you everyone! I think I have narrowed it down to Double red knockout or Valentine. Are either fragrant?


    I checked ARE and got two more to consider, Desmond Tutu and Kardinal™ - Kolorscape. They had neither the Knockouts or Valentine.

  • 9 years ago

    For something different she might consider Archduke Charles. It is a red, but it changes color depending on the temperatures. In spring it is a bicolor--pink & red, then turns solid red in summer/fall. It needs a little bit of pruning to stay in shape and it's bigger than either Martha Gonzales or Valentine.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked Carla
  • 9 years ago

    I have a Dame de' Couer and love it. I first saw it at the Botanical Gardens and got it from ARE when they had a place in San Antonio. Dark red color, repeat bloomer, dark green leaves. Thorns like any antique. The ARE website says it has a strong fragrance- that's not been my experience. I do nothing more than prune back in the spring.

    Lisa

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked southofsa
  • 9 years ago

    I have grown/grow all the ones mentioned here except Desmond tutu and Kardinal. My fave: Valentine, my least fave and don't miss: Europeana b/c of wicked thorns but definitely a sturdy, low maint. Easy red rose. I live in humid Houston and my success is based on planting in the absolute dryest areas of my garden. When a rose displayed BS in the first season they were planted, it usually meant they were being hit too often by sprinkler (in additional to humidity) and declined quickly despite BS potions. I learned to yank them out the minute they displayed BS as it was a losing battle for me and given the amount of time I wanted to devote to them (not much)


    Of the ones mentioned above by various posters, non exhibited BS.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked bossyvossy
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I found a beautiful double red knockout at Lowe's. My neighbor loved it! Especially the part where she only needs to dig a hole the size of the pot, put it in and water it. I gave her a bucket of compost to topdress it. We garden in sandy loam so no additional amendment needed.


    Thank you all for your suggestions!

  • 9 years ago

    That was so kind of you, Pam........................I hope it thrives for her, and brings her much joy.

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked carrie751
  • 9 years ago

    I highly recommend 'miracle on the hudson' nice red blooms, always in bloom, disease resistant

    PKponder TX Z7B thanked sabalmatt_tejas
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