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Sierra Pacific Windows v Marvin v Kolbe

9 years ago

I am in the process of building a new home on the Central
Coast of California and getting ready to make a decision on the windows. The house is a Spanish Colonial style and
after looking at what feels like two dozen options I have narrowed down my
windows and doors package to three options: Marvin, the Kolbe Ultra series, and
Sierra Pacific. The windows will mostly be
crank operated casements with a few fixed and from an aesthetic standpoint we
would be happy with any of the brands. While
all three are within our budget the pricing of the Sierra Pacific windows is significantly
less than the other two.

I do not mind spending money on the windows and doors as
they are a very visible element of the house. However I am not really into brand prestige so
there is really no benefit to me to say I have Marvin windows over Kolbe or
Sierra Pacific if they all perform reasonably similarly. It also seems to me that unlike the 100 year
windows I have in my current house which look beautiful and work fine after I restored
them, windows today all seem designed to fail eventually. As a result, no matter which brand I pick I
am likely to be throwing out my windows in 20 years and have to put in new
ones. This makes buying windows seem
less like an investment and more like an expense.

From all the research I have done it seems Marvin has the best
reputation with Kolbe not far behind.
Sierra Pacific unfortunately seems to have a poor reputation but then
again it seems like the majority of window brands have a very poor reputation
if measured by online comments (even Marvin and Kolbe have plenty bad reviews
although they are clearly more highly regarded than the others). I have interviewed ten different contractors
for this job, all with experience building high end custom homes, and they all
thought the three options were fine (one even recommended Sierra Pacific over
the others).

This makes me wonder how much of the issues with Sierra
Pacific are from installation versus craftsmanship. I would imagine there is a correlation
between windows pricing and installation quality with someone buying Marvin and
Kolbe windows more likely to pay for a higher end contractor which would get a
better install. However, I have seen
projects with $4-5 million custom homes locally using Sierra Pacific windows so
I know they are used in high end projects as well. Given the shear volume of windows and doors on
those projects I assume that there has to be a problem with at least one of
them that the contractor will need to go to the manufacturer about. I don’t think those custom builders would
risk their reputation on windows that are of poor quality and/or can’t get the
manufacturer to fix problems. On the
other hand, given the nature of a lot of contractors perhaps I am making too
optimistic of an assumption here.

This brings me to my questions. Has anyone on this site had a good experience
with Sierra Pacific windows? When
installed correctly how long are they working reasonably well? For those that have Marin or Kolbe windows or
doors, how long are they lasting before replacement?

Any thoughts would be gratefully appreciated.

Comments (6)

  • 9 years ago

    From afar I'd simply suggest you consider the local retailer and their ability to service the product should it be required, which it very often is with any wood or wood/clad products. Warranty is a big factor and then how are issues handled should they occur. What's the process and who is involved with repairs/parts? With that perspective I'm sure you'll choose the right window for your needs. Good luck and congrats on the project!

    J Phelan thanked Russell Chapman
  • 9 years ago

    Both very good points. Looks like I will be doing some homework on all three vendors as well as the brands! I appreciate the advice.

  • 8 years ago

    J Phelan I am making the same decision and have these three in my top 3 options. Our architect also suggested Jeld-Wen. Which way did you go with your windows? Why? Are you happy with the end product? I greatly appreciate it!


  • 8 years ago

    I decided that the headache of new construction was not worth it. We are selling our land and buying a property to renovate instead. For what it is worth, it would have depended on the budget. If I could fit the Marvin in I would have gone with them. Their windows look great and I think their customer service is universally considered the best (albeit not without some flaws). If not, I would have gone with the Sierra Pacific and relied on a very good window installer to vett the windorws before going in and ensure they are installed to specs.. I liked the Kolbe too, but there was just nothing that made them stand out other than they were slightly less expensive than the Marvin but a whole lot more than the Sierra Pacific.

  • 8 years ago

    I'll let you know in a couple of weeks I just purchased SP for the front (historic view) of my home. Candidly - if they fail 5 years earlier on average, I make out significantly better from an expense standpoint. The first quote I had from Pella and Marvin crested $40K (not a lot from some perspective, enough to make me reconsider life) I shopped and researched and settled on SP - backed by a 20 year warranty for any wood rot on their clad window and backed by a very reputable and financially strong local dealer. I finally through caution to the wind and went with builder grade rear facing windows and could not be happier - they are architecturally consistent and backed by a so so warranty - at the price installed ($4000 for 11 windows) I am thrilled with the cost benefit ratio. The SP are significantly more - but by mixing the two brands I saved $30K and can do it all again in 15 years if need be. Good luck sounds like a fun project.