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this oakleaf was planted last fall..HAD a perfect shape..I keep finding broken branches..have lost 8 - 10" off the top..see the clean cuts where I tidied up broken branches from before..why don't they eat what they break?..see the pieces I found today(bottom right)..I see just one nibbled leaf at the bottom..rabbits?..deer?..there are 2 paniculatas 2-3 ft away and they are fine..

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  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    it wouldn't surprise me if we have both!!..just wondered if anyone would definitely know..I would say 2.5 to 3 ft originally now down to about 2 ft or so..discouraging..plan to look at repellents..

  • 9 years ago

    That doesn't look like deer damage to me. Our deer eat oakleaf from the top down, I'd expect leaves and shoots to be gone, not much in the way of wood. They don't harvest branches, then leave them. I have a wire cage encircling my oakleaf now, until it has a chance to get established and put on some growth. Bobbex deer repellent can be effective for me, but this particular shrub is far enough from the house that I have a way of not being consistent with my spraying there.

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked morz8 - Washington Coast
  • 9 years ago

    So morz would you guess rabbits?..we had deer issues at one time (have less now - had a legal hunt in a park close to us) and the damage was more obvious than this..

  • 9 years ago

    Sometimes the deer break stuff just by walking around. Sometimes they play or squabble or otherwise take off running. Healthy-looking oakleaf though, patience pays off with those.

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked October_Gardens
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Well, the bottom branch looks broken off, not bitten off and right at the grass line. The top branch has the the clean cut of a rabbit bite. So either rabbits or a mowing issue...or both.

    tj

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
  • 9 years ago

    I'm leaning towards rabbits after reading these comments..my husband is trained and mows carefully haha..I bought a bag of milorganite today..although a fertilizer I've read that animals don't like it..

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I've had deer walk on perennials, not so much woody shrubs. Unless you count the doe who was trying to get a leg up and stand on my azalea hedge last week to better reach cherry blossoms. That's twice in 4 years I've seen a doe do that. I've had them lay on perennials too, take a nap right on top. I think if you had a deer frolicking around breaking branches, you'd see hoof prints.

    We don't really have a rabbit problem, I haven't seen more than a handful in as many years. I've had mountain beaver take whole branches from things, but not rabbits. You don't have mountain beaver in Indianapolis ;0)

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked morz8 - Washington Coast
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I feel your pain. If I had the patience needed to mess with installing an outside camera with a sensor, I would try it so it would record the perpetartor... something... but, I would first try products to keep all these guys away as that would be cheaper...

    Years ago, some vermin -rabbits, mice, etc- once tore a hole on a newly placed soaker hose. Arrrggghhh! On the very first night... can you believe it? I never found out what did it but it burned me up.

    Consider leaving one of those winter protection cages around this small shrub too. And give it some mulch. Ora small decorative fence/ I have some that are 3' tall that I use when the dogs start digging close to some shrubbery that I have or new one that was recently planted and the fertilizer small attracts them.... sigh, if it is not rabbits, deer, etc than add the pooches to the list too. :)) LOL!

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked luis_pr
  • 9 years ago

    I appreciate everyone's thoughts..it's got to be a wild animal..no dogs close by..this has happened several times now..we saw a raccoon in our yard a couple of weeks ago..do they bother plants?..we have quite a few squirrels and I've seen them nibbling my potted annuals but a woody shrub?..curious to see if milorganite helps..I can see that a "cage" would keep plants safer but hate the thought of looking at it..gardening equals 1 part joy and 2 parts problems lol..

  • 9 years ago

    Ha! How true. I know racccoons eat fruits and seeds so yes, but, if I have any in my area, I have never caught one in the act of bothering hydrangeas. Not saying they won't though...

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked luis_pr
  • 9 years ago

    luis..my yard is a battlefield for plants :-(

  • 9 years ago

    We have tons of rabbits. I just chased one out of my yard a few minutes ago. They never bother my hydrangeas though. Hostas, they love!

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked stir_fryi SE Mich
  • 9 years ago

    Rabbits love my oakleafs.

    tj

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
  • 9 years ago

    stir_fryi..might try milorganite..that's my plan

  • 9 years ago

    tsugajunkie..after what you just said..I bet my "attackers" are rabbits..

  • 9 years ago

    sprinkled milorganite today..saw bites on lower leaves but no branch damage..gotta be rabbits..never used milorganite but have read very positive comments about it..

  • 9 years ago

    I found similar damage (a small branch) on one of my oakleafs yesterday afternoon. But I am not sure if it was wabbits because they have been absent the last few years and they would have had to go past the dogs to get to this shrub. Hmmmmm. Odd as there were tastier, lower mophead leaves on two other shrubs. No damage to flower buds on any. More hmmmmms.

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked luis_pr
  • 9 years ago

    it's hard for plant lovers when anything happens to our plants :-(

  • 9 years ago

    I don't want to change blame elsewhere but I wonder how much wind speed would be needed to break branches in hydrangeas? I do not think this bed gets a lot of wind but I have not checked. Another one nearby does get windy.

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked luis_pr
  • 9 years ago

    I guess that's possible..you know what happens to me a lot - falling debris..I've had limbs crash into my plants so many times..amazing that the damage hasn't been worse..unavoidable living in a woods..