thanks for you help, the bud have leaves out, formed into small leaves and vines a couple inches long now, so i should just let them all grow?

i really want to move it though because it won't get much sun until i do... is it still possible to train any?

here is a pick of it i just took if you would view it, thanks!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/80667471@N08/34884448636/in/dateposted-public/

I think either way will work. What zone are you in, and are you sure the permanent location is permanent?

If you really want to move it now, I would dig as large of a root ball as possible and haul it over to the new location. If you just put it in, there shouldn't be too many new roots, and it should be no problem.

As far as training grape vines, that's an entirely different big topic of its own. For your vine, there's no problem in just letting everything grow, and choosing what to keep in the winter. Grapes are generally pretty tough, and it's not a big deal to reshape them down the line. Transplanting an established plant in the middle of summer is generally a bad idea, but in your case it would be like moving a potted plant, which is usually no problem.

i'm in zone 5b upstate ny, it's not been to warm yet and there is forecast for rain nearly every day for the next 4-5 days

Okay i'll go for moving it now, the roots should t have changed much it probably went in near the end of march. I appreciate the help, thank you

Ya, sounds like an ok time to move it. Keep it well watered The rest of the season.

Sure, go ahead and move it but be careful handelling it, those shoots break off easially.