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Name that shrub. Please.

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago


This was growing here when I bought the house and would like to know name and when would be the best time to shape prune. Sorry, the wind made it difficult to get great pics.


Whole shrub.

Thanks!

Comments (23)

  • 9 years ago

    diervilla lonicera (bush honeysuckle)

    User thanked cecily
  • 9 years ago

    I wanna say honeysuckle, but...

    User thanked waynedanielson
  • 9 years ago

    Sorry, I forgot to have something for size comparison in the picture. The leaves are only about 1" in length. Here's another picture. It doesn't seem to sucker hardly at all and the flowers are a bright white. I think it gets red berries later in the summer and the birds eat them (I think).

  • 9 years ago

    Wind went down and I dug out my good camera. This thing grows like a bush and I'm guessing it was a purchase from an area nursery. Here's some better pictures:


    Close up of the trunks:


  • 9 years ago

    Honeysuckle (Lonicera). Diervilla wouldn't be blooming right now, doesn't have red berries, and I've never known one to have white flowers. Pruning immediately after flowering is typical (but you won't get the red berries).

    User thanked Smivies (Ontario - 5b)
  • User thanked arbordave (SE MI)
  • 9 years ago
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    Arbordave wins! (no prize in this case) Lonicera morrowii matches all the points I've compared mine to. Dang, only shrub in the whole back yard when I bought the place and it turns out to be invasive. I'm almost sure it was planted as it is in an area of the yard where they had a raised bed by a tree with various plantings and the bush was the only thing to survive the tornado. Never even grew all that good until the dog we took care of peed on it several times when he was tied out by it.

    All my years in the woods and never seen any that I was aware of.

    Thanks all who contributed.

  • 9 years ago

    There's invasive and there's invasive on the Internet, and then there's the reality of what survives in West Central MN.


    Bill, whereabouts you from? I grew up in the large city of Vining, you know, the sprawling metropolis with suburbs of erdahl, leaf Valley, clitherall, and urbank? Bloody spell check...


    Not everything is as invasive in all places as someone online says it is. I know, egregious blasphemy, to say something not approved by the prevailing political wind.


    How long you been at this place? If it was invasive, or just prone to reseeding, you'd see something sprouting someplace. Check a fence line, windbreak, something like that.



    User thanked waynedanielson
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Wayne!

    From researching this I don't think it is a problem around here. Rarely see it except as a landscape shrub from times past.

    I'm familiar with Vining and noticed the sculptures and art work on display when passing through on my way to Fergus Falls on occasion. I originated in the metropolitan area but moved 'up north' and lived on wooded land NE of Wadena for 35 years. Got this place in town almost 5 years ago.

    Not a lot of things grow around here without some help getting started and no sign of L. morrowii growing wild in the woods or sprouting on the vacant lots.

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, the pride of Vining. Large sculptures (the first one was the foot), watermelon days, when Vining boasts for a day a population larger than Wadena, and the chicken at the purple palace. Not kidding about the chicken...if you ever, and I mean ever, have the chance, stop by for it. Little Vining has made the top five for best chicken in the state.


    I also recommend stopping by swedberg's in battle lake. Lake country in otter tail, and I forget the place in Brandon, but between thosets three, about as good a selection as you are going to find of locally hardy stock as possible. The Brandon place is better for forestry seedlings, Lake country for larger sizes of odd stuff, and swedbergs...well, swedberg is one of the oldest nurseries in the state. More than once, when living in IN or NY, i'd pick up something from one of the three I couldn't find where I was at the time...

    User thanked waynedanielson
  • 9 years ago

    Nice of a bush as it was when flowering and birds eating the red berries, it sure turned into a ragged looking, shapeless blob of a plant in late summer.

    I decided to get rid of it and another that I found on the other side of my fence panel, competing with a same sized lilac at the end of my lilac hedge.

    I used the lopping shears on the one by the fence and treated the stumps with 41% glyphosate and I pulled the other one out by the roots with the ATV.

    If I would've know how easy pulling one was I would've done the same thing to the first one. Not much roots at all.

    A little chunk of sod I saved from the last planting project and you'd hardly know there was one there.

    Now to find a better shrub to put near that area. :-)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hydrangea paniculata 'Quickfire', or one of the U of MN bred hardy deciduous rhododendrons perhaps.

    User thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 9 years ago

    Just what I was thinking of.

    I see something lurking in the lilac hedge that closely resembles H.p. of some sort. Stay tuned. :-)

  • 9 years ago

    I can split this into a new thread but as long as we are on the same subject. Here are the picture of the mystery shrub in the lilac hedge. We've had a lot of plants show up both in the lawn and the hedge since the 2010 tornado.

    Alternate leaves.


    And the bark:


  • 9 years ago

    Funny, most of the leaves look alternate and some look almost opposing on the same branch. Here's more pics of a branch that got more sun than the rest. It has a little more color to the stem.


  • 9 years ago
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    And lastly, here's a similar looking plant residing about 8 ft. away from the first one, in the same hedge. More opposing leaves on this one? I couldn't find any other plants in the hedge so if these aren't a desirable species, I don't have any other options residing in the yard. :-)



  • 9 years ago

    Just dawned on me. My neighbor across the street has a large old cherry tree of some sort. Since posting this I found several of these in the lilac bushes. Probably products of birds pooping after visiting that tree.

    I really want something that blooms in summer so will probably look for Hydrangea tomorrow if I can find a place that has one.

    I pulled the stump of the other European honeysuckle out by the roots this A.M. btw. I really don't see any others around so they must've been planted at some point in the past.

    Thanks! :-)

  • 9 years ago

    Looks like European buckthorn.

    User thanked arbordave (SE MI)
  • 9 years ago

    Yes, looks correct.

    I only found half a dozen of them in the hedge. None have berries. It shouldn't be a problem for me to cut them off at ground level and swab them with glyphosate. The lilacs were a tough competitor but I think the tree like form of the buckthorn would eventually win out if there was no intervention.

    I may also have them out on my land in the country. I'll check that out next time I get out there.

    Thanks for the quick response.

  • 9 years ago

    Okay, one more request. While I was exterminating the buckthorn, I ran across yet another shrubby plant, growing in the hedge. :-) This one is strictly opposite leaves. Can anyone identify it? Leaves:


    Bark:

  • 9 years ago

    Another Honeysuckle

    User thanked Smivies (Ontario - 5b)
  • 9 years ago

    Thought it might be, because of the bark looked familiar.

    Cut and treated with 41% glyphosate.

    Looks like I might nave to break down and buy something. :-)

    Thanks!