Software
Houzz Logo Print
dchall_san_antonio

UC Verde buffalo grass questions

Hello Californians. I need to get up to speed on the use of UC Verde buffalo grass.

I left SoCal in 1979 after 25 years and eventually settled in the San Antonio area of Texas. I've had this lawn hobby going for the past 15 years. For several years we had a Texas grown buffalo grass alternative called Turfalo. Here are a few pictures. The first is a home installation where the owner mows at 3/4" high. It looked like a putting green.

This picture is from a fraternity house about 3 weeks after classes ended.

As you can see the grass is escaping over the sidewalk. You can also see the seed heads and flower stems on the grass. Note that this second picture shows the grass growing in the shade of a tree. It was clearly thinning and not nearly as dense as the grass on the south side of the tree. The benefit of Turfalo was the ability to spread quickly and the slow growing seed heads and flowers which grow at the same speed as the grass itself. Unfortunately Turfalo is no longer being grown for sale, so I'm looking at UC Verde to recommend to people who want a prairie type grass.

From what I've read and seen, UC Verde does grow from plugs to expand and fill. My first question is whether it will establish a dense turf that resists weeds?

Is it equally dense when mowed low as when mowed high?

How much water does it really take? Is it 12 inches per year like the sellers say?

I've seen a few UC Verde pix on Gardenweb. Does anyone have any really close ups from a few inches away?

Comments (16)

  • 9 years ago

    We have UC Verde growing at the South Coast Reserach and Extension Center as part of our low water use demo garden. It took a while to fill in but is quite dense now. It doesn't require much water and although we don't mow it low, I've seen no seeds. We also have Platinum Paspallum, which you can mow very short like a putting green. UC Verde Buffalo Grass has a Facebook page where there are some photos.

  • 9 years ago

    I read somewhere that Zoysia grass is more drought tolerant than Buffalo Grass. I have a Zoysia grass lawn probably 25 years old and I have tested its drought tolerance rather severely in the last couple of years. It can go weeks without watering. I also had a patch of buffalo grass as ground cover around a raised vegetable bed. I started it from plugs and I left it unmowed. IMO Zoysia is much more attractive and much more durable and has a much shorter dormant period And I think it is more drought tolerant but I can't prove that..

  • 9 years ago

    UC Verde is a hybrid that does not grow as tall a common buffalo grass. It is similar in appearance to a hybrid bermuda - fine blades.

  • 9 years ago

    I had the Legacy version of Buffalo grass which I bought from High Country Gardens. Really didn't like it much, except that it didn't get very tall.

  • 9 years ago

    I don't want to hijack my own topic, but echolane, there might be a specific variety of zoysia that is more drought tolerant than a specific variety of buffalo grass, but that global statement is not accurate. I grew a half acre of St Augustine in the Texas desert and did not water it for 2 years. All it got was the occasional rain, such as it was. The way I did that does not lend itself to a regular home lawn situation. There's more to drought resistance than the variety of grass.

    Anyhoo, thanks for the comments so far. I'm glad I posted my pictures so y'all have something to compare UC Verde to. I like not having the seed heads. I'm allergic to them.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I have Turfalo in a small area in my backyard. I have UC Verde as my main lawn in the front yard. I planted it two years ago. I have had lots of problems with bermuda grass. I thought I had killed it all, but apparently I did not. This year my neighbor across the street decided to stop taking care of her lawn and grow weeds instead. So I have been inundated with oxalis. The good thing is that I spray to kill it, it browns, then grows back. If you search my "akarinz" I believe I have posted some pictures here. I can take a close up tomorrow, if you like.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I am so troubled with oxalis in my lawn too. I keep applying Weed B Gome but to no permanent benefit. Last fall I spent about an hour a day for a month on my hands and knees trying to hand weed the Oxalis. I was getting the tap root out in most cases. But this spring there seemed to be twice as much Oxalis. :-(. :-(. Don't know how to beat this darn weed.....

  • 9 years ago

    A friend of mine had a problem with oxalis in his new Kurapia. It probably came with the new topsoil he had delivered. He managed to control it by applying Roundup to the oxalis with a brush so it wouldn't get on the Kurapia.

  • 9 years ago

    Weed-b-Gon makes several products. The one you want for oxalis is called Weed-b-Gon Chickweed, Clover, and Oxalis Killer.

  • 9 years ago

    dc_hall do you know if this can be used on the UC Verde buffalo grass? I have a product that I use on my marathon which works great, but haven't found any thing for the UC Verde.

  • 9 years ago

    I do not know if the WBG CCO is safe for UCV. You'd have to read the label. Labels vary from state to state and from year to year. I'm also not sure you can even buy WBG CCO in California.

    molewacker, the reason that area is a problem for you is that it is bordered on three sides by concrete. Concrete holds heat overnight which evaporates more moisture faster than the rest of the yard. Although, how much heat is there in Napa ;-)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I try to stay off of Facebook, but I finally had to see the pictures. Glad I did. If you are on Facebook, here is a link to the pictures page. I especially liked the direct comparison between Turffalo (on the left) and UCV.

  • 9 years ago

    The UC Verde looks much nicer.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks DChall! The picture above is actually from the Danville property, its generally hotter than Napa. And, as you indicated, that is exactly the issue I am having, 3 sides of concrete/stone that basically cooks the moisture right out of the heavy clay. After last week's heat wave, only a few areas of the Zoysia are still green while areas of UCV are alive .... and spreading. I will try to post another picture soon...

  • 9 years ago

    Here are as few pictures of the UC Verde B grass I took today. I've been drastically under watering the lawn so as to give the UC a chance to spread. Note that the UC looks good and is toughing out the dry rather well (compared to Zoysia and the other grasses).