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Celebration Sod Update

9 years ago

Installed my Celebration sod 2.5 weeks ago. Mowed Saturday for the first time at about 1.25". Mowed again today at the same height. In general, I think it's looking great. Getting a little more pressure from violets and sedge than I'd like (and around the edge of the sod, a fair amount of crabgrass, but I"m keeping it at bay), but overall very happy with how it's looking.

Comments (16)

  • 9 years ago

    Looking good!

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks! You can see in the second picture where I took a strip lower than 1" w/my rotary just to see what would happen. Obviously that's a little lower than I can go right now. Seems to be doing well at the 1.125" height. Violets, though...bane of my existence. Can't wait to put down a pre-e this fall to hopefully get a little bit ahead of them. Right now I'm just being reactionary.

  • 9 years ago

    Weed-b-Gon Chickweed, Clover, and Oxalis Killer is your friend. The violets seed rapidly, thus leading to repeated attacks. Keep after it.

  • 9 years ago

    No DC, wrong active ingredient for Bermuda. Sulfentrazone is the ticket for violets in bermuda

  • 9 years ago

    Sulfentrazone has been great for the violets. Also spot spraying some crabgrass with something j had around the house (safe for Bermuda). Think I might just upgrade to Celsius and Certainty to take care.if everything, though.

  • 9 years ago

    Here's my problem with sulfentrazone. It is a systemic that is taken up by the roots. This means that even if you prevent overspray onto trees and shrubs, it kills the trees and shrubs anyway because they have roots in the yard. Here's an excerpt from the Authority XL labeling.

    IMPORTANT
    Injury to or loss of desirable trees or vegetation may result from failure
    to observe the following:
    Do not apply or drain or flush equipment on or
    near desirable trees or other plants, or on areas where their roots may
    extend, or in locations where the chemical may be washed or moved
    into contact with their roots. Do not use on lawns, walks, driveways, ten-
    nis courts or similar areas. Prevent drift of spray to desirable plants. Do
    not contaminate any body of water. Keep from contact with fertilizers,
    insecticides, fungicides and seeds during storage.

    Is there a problem with the Weed-b-Gon products on bermuda?


  • 9 years ago

    That warning is on almost every herbicide concentrate I've ever used, it's not specific to sulfentrazone. The triclopyr in weed be gon CCO is harmful to bermuda & the 2,4d in the other weed be gon products stress the bermuda big time, so it has to be diluted down pretty far. They work great on every other grass I hear.

  • 9 years ago

    Anecdotally, I have never personally had any collateral damage to trees or shrubs from sulfentrazone & I use it almost monthly

  • 9 years ago

    Certainly there are warnings on all herbicides. It is only those taken up by the roots that have the warning about collateral damage to trees and shrubs through the roots. Some other root uptake products are off the market for homeowners include picloram and clopyralid. Those happen to be banned completely in some states because they are so persistent in the soil.

    Here is the similar warning for Weed-b-Gon

    IMPORTANT
    If an ornamental shrub or tree is in the lawn, keep spray off foliage and exposed roots.
    St. Augustinegrass, centipedegrass or Bermudagrass lawns may have delayed green-up if this product is used when lawns are emerging from dormancy or when temperature drops below 45°F within 72 hours of application.
    Do not spray carpetgrass, dichondra or desirable clovers.
    Do Not Use On Floratam, a variety of St. Augustinegrass.
    Do not use on or around fruits, vegetables or flowers.
    The maximum number of broadcast applications per treatment site is 2 per year.
    Do not exceed specified dosages for any area.

    HOW IT WORKS
    Because broadleaf weeds and grasses grow differently, Weed-B-Gon® kills broadleaf weeds without harming lawns. Weed-B-Gon Kills Weeds, Not Lawns singles out weeds, enters through leaves and moves inside the weed to the roots.

    This is a significantly different product.

    Here's the warning for Spectracide Weed Stop with Atrazine for St Augustine

    USE PRECAUTIONS
    • Do not use near desirable plants as injury may occur.
    • Do not apply under windy conditions.
    • Do not apply when temperatures exceed 90°F as lawn injury may occur.
    • Applications when temperatures are below 60°F may result in slower weed control.
    • Use only on healthy home lawns that are not under heat or drought stress and are reasonably free of insects, nematodes or diseases.
    • Sprigging listed grasses in treated areas is acceptable; however, some yellowing or stunting may occur.

    APPLICATION RESTRICTIONS
    Do not treat the same area twice.
    • Do not use on muck or alkaline soils.
    • Do not apply to areas where natural drainage would carry the spray to desirable plants.
    • Do not replant treated areas, except with listed grasses, within 12 months of application or injury may result.
    • Do not apply in the root zone of trees, ornamentals or vegetabels or other desirable plants other than the listed grasses.
    • Do not overseed treated areas within six months after application or apply to newly seeded lawns for 60 days.
    • Do not apply this product in a way that will contact any person or pet, either directly or through drift. Keep people and pets out of the area during application.

  • 9 years ago

    That is a beautiful green color, Matt.


    Is Celsius or certainty premier products to use to spot spray? Would that be one or other or use both ?


  • 9 years ago

    Celsisus and Certainty are commercial grade post-emergents that cover pretty much all weeds you'll see in a bermuda lawn. Certainty will get all of your sedges, Celsius covers everything else. One of the big advantages is that their use is not limited by temperature (a lot of herbicides can't be used > 85F). You do need a high quality sprayer to use them, though, to get your application rates right.

  • 9 years ago

    4 weeks in after yesterday's mow. If you look on the other side of the chain link fence, you will see that my yard out there is...well...100% weeds. That is next springs project. Going to kill all of that and sprig it with Celebration.

  • 9 years ago

    I'd buy the certainty first. I can't imagine you'll need the Celsius after that, I've not yet found a weed that sulfentrazone doesn't kill. Sulfentrazone & pre emergent is all I've purchased the last 2 years.

  • 9 years ago
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    That's going to be great Matt. How come the fence is at that point rather than to end of the property? Are u able to mover it back after the grass upgrade or is there other reasons for the enclosure at that point?

    That's exactly what I need then . Certainty. Recommended purchase sites? Also, recommended sprayer or applicator? I'd like to get a quality product for the expensive chemicals.

  • 9 years ago

    I think J4 did a big sprayer review on his lawniac. Com site a while back.