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Etiolation, please explain

9 years ago

Hi, Are there some succulents that are naturally etiolated or have a cascading habit? I am very confused as to which ones need to be beheaded and which are naturally elongated, or etiolated.

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  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No there are none that are naturally etiolated.

    Over time succulents will get longer and drop bottom leaves. So the stem will get longer. The way you can tell when a succulent is etiolated is if there is unnatural spacing between the leaves. Usually succulents are tight and compact. Not enough light will cause spacing between the leaves, and other problems. Etiolated plants look weak too.

    See how the bottom leaves dropped off, but the top growth is tight. These are hard grown so they don't look perfect. I have them everywhere, but I feel Ghosties show what I'm talking about perfectly.

    This pic below is from the internet. Same plant as mine above, but is etiolated.

    Gail Gradidge thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 9 years ago

    Etiolated plants not only look weak as pointed out above...they are weak!

    Gill

  • 9 years ago

    Cascading plants usually have sturdy enough stems to support themselves. If a succulent needs to be tied to a permanent stake or stick to prevent it from collapsing, it's probably etiolated.

    Gail Gradidge thanked ewwmayo
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you all so much for your advice, it has helped a lot. Does this include the pachyphytums and sedums?

  • 9 years ago

    Yep it does include those:).

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    great advice, just a little comment. You can always google and hit the "images" link. Looks at lots of images so you get a real sense of "normal". Also, think of this. Normal succulents grow in lots of sun and some heat (mostly), so they grow in tight rosettes so that the leaves shade/protect each other and huddle together to conserve water and energy and cooler air. If your plant is spreading it's leaves apart, so that light, and your eyes, can go into all it's nooks and crannies, that is generally not normal and =etoliation. A bare stem on older growth is usually normal too....and will harden or brown up in response to the exposure. Sometimes this kind of thinking things through can really help you get a feel for things, so you don't always need to rely on technical wordy influences. Wordy advice is awesome when you're learning, but I love that feeling when you can feel your plants:-) I really I think that is at the heart of why we crave succulents.

    Gail Gradidge thanked lisasfbay9b
  • 9 years ago

    Show some of your cool old plants that hang over their pots Lisa:)!

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Lisa and Kara. Good advice. Will post some pics.

  • 9 years ago

    Here are some pics of my dear etiolated plants. Identification would also be appreciated.


    really dont know what to do about these skinny little Aeoniums

  • 9 years ago

    The skinny aeoniums are in the photo above.

  • 9 years ago

    not too many plants showing ANY etiolation in above photos... just normal growth. Aeoniums look like rotting/dying- perhaps severely under or overwatered? Which plants do you think are etiolated (stretched due to lack of sufficient sunlight)- maybe the Graptopetalums in the back of the pot third photo down.

    Gail Gradidge thanked palmbob
  • 9 years ago

    I agree, those don't appear etiolated at all to me either :-) Maybe those in your third picture look stretched, as for the rest, they just look as if they've grown and lost their bottom leaves like such a lot of rosette types do naturally. Maybe time to decapitate them and reroot the rosettes and start again?

    Gill

    oops, realised palmbob has just said the same....great minds! Anyway, two of us agreeing that they are fine..........is good!


    Gail Gradidge thanked greenclaws UK, Zone 8a
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you so much Gill and Palmbob. I thought that because they have such long stems, they were etiolated. So I should rather look at plants that have no rosettes and spacing between leaves is too much?

    i agree with all the comments. The ones in the third picture do not receive as much sun as the others, so that is probably why they are stretched. Will see what I can do about that. What should I do about the Aeoniums, can they be saved?

  • 9 years ago

    Your plants look great! But yeah, those aeoniums...I lose alot in the summer, likely I overwater, and they look just like your right before they croak:-( tey clipping the heads as tight as you san get em to the top. I hate to lose the height, but I can't seem to learn!

    Gail Gradidge thanked lisasfbay9b
  • 9 years ago

    Gail

    Rosettes are supposed to be more compact. Your plants have that. Kara posted excellent photos for comparison: first pic is showing well grown plant that have longer stems as they get older, but any growth is compact. Stems are sturdy looking too, even if long. Second pic of the same but very etiolated plant: week looking stems that are limp, color of stems and leaves is lighter than it should be, leaves spaced far apart and loose rosette (rather than compact).

    Your photo #3 has plants that may be slightly etiolated - perhaps pot is shaded? (You said it doesn't receive same amount of light as other pot). They do not look really bad; maybe you just need to move the pot a bit or rotate it if one side is receiving more sunlight than other.

    Gail Gradidge thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a