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CA citrus grove

I am currently working near the Salton Sea right on the border of North Shore and Mecca, CA. Everyday I pass this citrus grove that was recently planted. One side looks like it was planted in the spring of 2016 and the other side looks like it was planted in the spring of 2017. I stopped and took a few photos and thought I'd share with my forum buddies so you can see what a citrus grove looks like in its infant stage. I am not sure what type of citrus these are but my best guess is lemons (probably eurekas) because they do well out here.


panorama pic shows the older side on the left and younger side on the right, notice the difference in tree size.

Commercial citrus grove Thermal, CA · More Info


Looking left older grove

Commercial citrus grove Thermal, CA · More Info


Looking right younger grove, notice the Salton Sea in the background at the bottom of the mountains

Commercial citrus grove Thermal, CA · More Info


These are the trees that border the grove, they look like they're 3-4 years old, I believe growers plant these to protect younger trees when they get cold temps, these larger trees hold warmer air inside the grove. Not 100% sure but johmerr might be able to add a little more info to that.

Commercial citrus grove Thermal, CA · More Info


Notice the paper wrapped trunks, that's what they use for sun protection on the young trees in the desert.

Commercial citrus grove Thermal, CA · More Info


Hope you enjoyed the pics.

Evan

Comments (20)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you for sharing Evan - !!!!!

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked uncle molewacker z9b Danville CA (E.SF Bay)
  • 9 years ago

    Thank Evan, interesting, also looks like a grove of date palm trees in the background.

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked Silica
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    George, no problem!

    John, I'm pretty sure that's what they're for, either that or to keep ruffians like me out once the trees start producing fruit! If I see one of the ranch hands working out there I'll go ask him.

    Silica that's correct, there are date palms next to and behind this grove and on the other side there is vineyards. Lots of agriculture out here in the desert. It always surprises me how much we grow out here. As I drive along on highway 111 there are bell pepper fields, carrots, jalapeños and artichokes in the winter that are grown out here and of course miles and miles of citrus groves.

    Evan

  • 9 years ago

    The desert will grow almost anything, if it has water.


  • 9 years ago

    That's prime date palm growing land so I'm surprised at the citrus there. Silica, there are many date palm groves on the 111, East of the Salton Sea. There is a great little store that sells date shakes and fresh dates as well. I would stop in for some medjools for my Mom when driving that way.

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked fireballsocal
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Beautiful panoramic views, Evan! It is good to see people are turning desert in to a green oasis. Thanks for sharing!

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for sharing! Cool to see a baby orchard!

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked kcandmilo
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for sharing Evan. I remember when I lived in FL and drove through central FL along the turnpike....the smell of orange blossoms was heavenly! Enjoy!!

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked Laura LaRosa (7b)
  • 9 years ago

    That's a mighty big investment. Sure hope greening doesn't become a problem out there.


    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    With the extremely high summer temperatures in the Sulton Sea area, I think the Asian Citrus psyllids would have a hard time surviving the summers. Psyllids have a 100 percent death rate at temperatures of 114-F or higher. They might do OK during the winter season, but come summer they would be killed

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked Silica
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Silica, thank you. I do remember reading somewhere that the ACP has difficulty or dies at high temperatures... but I do not remember the temperature nor dwell. I also remember reading that HLB can be beaten back at high [118F ???] temperatures. ??

    Can you share your source(s) on that info / related information - and if you have any suggestions on direction / places to research- - I would like to look into this further. thank you!

    - George

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked uncle molewacker z9b Danville CA (E.SF Bay)
  • 9 years ago

    Great thread and pics Evan. Have noticed some really large citrus groves down that stretch of highway. Can never tell what they are either because it's always late March when my travels take me out that way.

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked PKG
  • 9 years ago

    Silica: that is encouraging to hear! At least citrus can be grown somewhere -- as long as water is supplied.

  • 9 years ago

    They must use a lot of water in the desert. I don't want to know how much! Date Palms make a lot of sense.

  • 9 years ago

    There is lots of irrigation around that sea. Aside from being built on an old salt mine, that sea receives all the runoff from the surrounding farmlands and the chemicals and salts contribute even more toward the seas salinity. Grapes are grown on the west side of the sea, and South is where much of our winter crops come from. They grow all kinds of stuff down near Brawley.

  • 9 years ago

    fireball, - just curious - is the irrigation from well water, recycled... or other source? I heard that Palm Springs has plenty of water in the aquifer below it, but most of the water used there is from the Colorado River [?].

  • 9 years ago

    Dave, it is definitely a big risk for the farmers out here planting new groves. But all things considered this a small grove compared to some farms that are massive! It takes 5-10 minutes to drive past some of them going 60 mph on the highway that's how large they are.

    George, I found some of the research that silica was referring to above, enjoy!

    http://www.crec.ifas.ufl.edu/extension/trade_journals/2015/2015_August_thermo.pdf

    Also to answer yours, Daves and melikeeatplants question about the water, most farms out here are getting their water from the All American Canal it runs along the North side of the Salton Sea and through the Coachella Valley and is fed from the Colorado River. Some farms have wells, most near the Salton Sea don't use well water though because of its brackish nature due to its proximity to the sea.

    Thanks PKG, glad you enjoyed the pics.

    Hey Laura, I know what you mean about the orange blossom smell in the spring, it is definitely fantastic.

    sunshine and kcandmilo not a problem, I will try and get back to the same grove and keep this thread updated as it matures.

    Evan

  • 9 years ago

    Go Gators! Glad they're doing good research to help our beloved citrus. I'm going to visit the Swamp next week...first time since I graduated many years ago. I hope to see some orange groves on my drive up there from Orlando.

    evdesert 9B Indio, CA thanked Laura LaRosa (7b)