Wow, this could have been me writing this post. I'm in pretty much the same position as you - plans for a Wolf package with concerns about the blue enamel chipping - and reconsidering Miele. Some of my reasons for not choosing Miele are the same as yours, too - not wanting a plumbed steam oven or a plumbed coffee system - but also because they don't have a great reputation for service in my area. I've been hands-on with the Wolf and really liked the experience. I was also wondering about stacking Miele on Wolf but I don't think it would look as good.

Yesterday I visited a high-end appliance store where they carry both lines. The salesperson somewhat reassured me. He said they sell a lot of Wolf and the percentage of complaints of the blue enamel chipping is very low. He also pointed out that most ovens with flake but because they are gray/black, it is not as noticeable.

He somewhat talked me off the ledge :). I am going to phone Wolf tomorrow and talk to their specialists to hear what improvements they've made with the latest model and how I can protect my large investment i.e. warranty.

I was just thinking that if you plan on using the self-cleaning feature, use it early and often, so that any trouble falls clearly under the warranty. And FWIW, I don't believe the sales person at all when he says all ovens have this trouble, it's just more visible with the blue. People are clearly reporting enamel flaking into their food via the convection. If it were me and I was set on a Wolf oven, I would just forego using the self cleaning mode- and remember to never line the floor of the oven- just use foil or such to catch drips on the racks. (That was a lot of unsolicited advice- my apologies.)

Carladr, we do indeed sound like we're facing the same issues! I'm so glad that you chimed in. I briefly considered the Wolf coffee system, but we invested in a Saeco espresso machine a couple of years ago that we love, and we also use other coffee technologies (pour over, etc) so now we're building a beverage center around our obsession with coffee lol. I'd love to hear your experience with the Wolf model if you install it!

We went to one of Wolf's demo centers (Clarks) and I really loved the functionality of the Wolf products. They also were extremely responsive after the fact with questions, so I will call today to discuss the flaking issue. My local dealer told me that the flaking issues were a thing of the past, but that doesn't seem true given the experience of those contributing here, as you mentioned, Rita. I agree with your assessment that not all ovens flake. I've had a Thermador dual fuel convection range for 18 years that has never flaked. It makes me uncomfortable that there's a bit of dodge and deflect going on here.

We're fortunate to be near Yale appliance. As you probably know, they publish blogs that talk about reliability, and Miele is always near the top of the list. We looked at Miele products at Yale and liked them, but I preferred the Wolf convection technology and appliance styling over Miele. But, I really need to purchase a reliable set of appliances this time around. Our 18 year old kitchen needs a reno now primarily because our built in appliances in their current size configuration cannot be replaced, and a couple of them are on the way out and do not have parts available. I am grateful that DH has been able to locate parts (even sent our Thermador oven controller to Canada to be rebuilt!) and keep things going, but it's the end of the line for my stove and downdraft. I don't want to spend a load of money on renovations just to have to replace built in appliances 5 years down the road, and if size standards have changed, then we're looking at another big expense with cabinetry changes. So, the search continues.

we stacked a miele speed oven over a wolf "e" series full size oven. looks great, don't even notice it now. get what u want, don't worry so much about the look!!

we are considering stacking meile coffee maker on top of wolf single oven. Has anyone done this? Will they line up perfectly? hoWu’s the look? Any photo that you can share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.