HERE is an interesting animation from Frank Miller Lumber that shows how R&Q boards are cut.

Thanks for all the great info, jellytoast. I have the sample of the Mirage White Oak R&Q in Natural in my house right now, and it looks lovely. We're going to the other flooring dealer tomorrow to get the sample of the Lauzon White Oak R&Q to compare them side-by-side. I like the cashmere finish on the Mirage (the Lauzon we want only comes in semi-gloss), but I think I kind of like the color of the Lauzon better. It's soooo hard to make a decision, but we'll have to figure it out in the next day or two. Any advice you, Ann Danen, or anyone else wants to share regarding installation is appreciated. I think the price is pretty much the same for Mirage or Lauzon, and I'm assuming the quality is comparable as well. Thanks again, everyone, for all the help.

Are you doing a glue down on slab?

Love my Mirage floors!

Actually, I'm assuming we'll be installing ours over a wood sub-floor, as these rooms are on our main floor which is over our finished basement. We're ripping up some existing solid hardwood in the kitchen/dining room and tearing out the carpet that's in the living room so we'll have the new white oak flooring in all three rooms. I haven't talked to an installer yet, but I'm pretty sure our general contractor is planning to lay the floor himself. Do you think it's a mistake not to have someone who specializes strictly in laying engineered hardwood? We're in Colorado, by the way.

AR it sounds like you got some great info from Jelly Toast. I do have the Mirage White Oak R&Q (cashmere finish) referenced by your link in your post. We are very happy with them. We did opt for the floating floor — not the glue down. We are on a concrete slab, however, no sub floor.

As you can see from the photo, there are no knots and it is a clean and soft look. The wood is warm looking and soft. There are natural gradations in the color, so a good installer is essential. Our contractor took his time and really worked with the colors of each plank. I do agree with everything Jelly Toast said, and especially the advice about looking at plank sizes of Lauzon. Both Lauzon and Mirage make excellent products, but it’s personal preference that will help you decide. My planks are 6 inches in wideth and quite long. Let me know if you have any more questions, I will take more photos for you.

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Thank you for posting those photos, Ann, and for your advice about getting a good installer. Your floors look absolutely gorgeous! It's nice to see a "real" photo instead of just the staged, professionally lit photos of multi-million dollar homes on the flooring websites. I love how your Mirage floors look, and I think they would look wonderful in our house. Decisions, decisions... :-)

I wouldn't want someone installing my floors who didn't specialize in that. I spent a bunch of money on my flooring and I didn't want "amateur hour" when it came to the install. I wanted someone with a lot of experience who just did wood floors. There are things about other installations I've seen often that I don't like, such as H-joints and joints too close to each other. I made sure my installer was willing to install as per Mirage's specs and pay attention to details. Like Ann's, my installer opened a bunch of boxes before he began and sorted through them so I have a nice mix of lengths and colors throughout. He spend days on the prep work. He had the right equipment, took his time, was thorough, left my house and floor spotless.

My floor was glued over slab so I don't think I can offer you any advice on your particular install. I would advise that you read through the Mirage installation instructions for your installation method. That way you will at least have an idea of what should be going on. And then pay attention to what's going on (that doesn't mean stand over someone while they work, lol).

JellyToast, you and I are kindred spirits! Reading the instructions is key to understanding anything that goes on during the install! It really helped put my mind at ease, as well, in that I knew I was making the right decision (float, or glue down). We did a floating floor over our slab and the installer glued each individual piece and then laid the floor down on top of the water-barrier layer.

AR, please feel free to ask any questions as you get further into your remodel!

Haha, Ann! I am curious by nature so I want to know the hows and whys of everything. It's a curse.

BTW, AR, I saw on Ann's reveal thread that there was mention of the Mirage rebate. I believe that they may have a springtime rebate program, too. They had one in April last year, so they may be doing the same thing again this year.

Mirage rebate?!? Ooohh, I have to hear more. This could be great timing for my build.

It was 50 cents per foot when I ordered in the fall. I haven't received it yet, but they say to allow 12 weeks. Last year they had a rebate in the spring as well, so you might call them to see if they are planning to do it again this year.

I haven't received my rebate yet, either. It was .50/ft which really added up quickly! I wonder if it's still going on or if you'll have to wait until the spring? I just checked their website and didn't see the notice. April will be here before you know it.

Strategy, keep us posted on your build! I'd love to see photos!

Hi Ann, I have many photos. This build is so stressful because we are not on site, but the builder is awesome and we continue to work though all issues wonderfully. We are trying hard to keep the cost under control. Change Orders, Allowances, Builders Fees, ugghhh, but some things can only be done properly at this phase of construction.

I feel for all my custom build sisters and brothers...

I can tell it will be beautiful when its done! your home looks like a french provincial style? I hope all goes well--please keep us posted!

Has anybody installed the Mirage White Oak R&Q Isla flooring (https://www.miragefloors.com/ENG/hardwood-flooring-white-oak-r-q-isla/) that can share after photos please?

I just ordered the Mirage White Oak Select and Better - their natural line.

I went with the semi-gloss finish versus the Cashmere on the advice of my designer but I think both are lovely.

I wanted a more traditional look so I opted for the most classic 3" wood.

When I researched and went to some floor stores, Mirage seemed to be very well reviewed. I was also pleased that I didn't have to worry about toxic substances and that it - at least from the website - had green policies and had sustainable forestry practices.

There was some difference in pricing - ranged from $8.25 to $7.29 per square foot in Los Angeles.

Wow that’s a huge difference in pricing. What’s the difference between cashmere and semi-gloss? Is the semi-gloss a little shiny?

Semi gloss is a satin finish but not high glass. Cashmere is matte. From their website, matte is good for high wear and if ou have pets or children. However matte can show foot prints if you walk barefoot because of oil on soles.

The difference was subtle and I opted for the semi gloss as I wanted a more classic look.

i had considered white oak but it read a bit brown and I am having a lot of quarter sawn white oak cabinets so I wanted a warmer light floor to contrast. My inspiration photos of my cabinets looked well with natural red oak and I opted for Select and Better because I wanted a less busy grain.

The white oak isla is lighter than the normal white oak. But it sounds like you found something perfect for your setup. Plus it’s several dollars cheaper than the white oak r&q isla!

I am getting Mirage nordic (white) in maple-solid wood for my living room and dining room. I like the semi-gloss but does anyone think I should get the cashmere (matte) finish because it will be easier to upkeep? Does it make much difference in white? If anyone has experience with either-let me know. The house is really big and even with a housekeeper don't think we can mop every day. 5 teenage kids, one old dog who will not be replaced. We have a hallway so dining room/living room will not be the general walk through the house path. Dining room will probably be used twice a week for eating. We have a separate eat-in kitchen area. I am not too strict so it is possible I will one day have grandchildren riding tricycles through the house.

I have Mirage with the cashmere (matte) finish and LOVE it. Super easy to care for ... clean with a damp microfiber about once a week, that's it. It does not show footprints if walked on barefoot.

jellytoast, do you use any sort of cleaning product (like Bona) on your microfiber, or just water? I agree that the matte doesn't show footprints. I walk around barefoot all the time, and we haven't had an issue with it. I think the cashmere/matte finish is the bomb!

AR, I just plain water, wrung out well so the microfiber is just damp. Wood floor cleaners are mostly water anyway and I haven't seen a need for added cleansing agents. I've read so many complaints about wood floor "cleaners" leaving a film or residue; that's not something I want to deal with. The Mirage finish cleans up easily.

Thanks so much AR and jellytoast--going to go with the cashmere finish! Thanks for helping me make that decision. I am on the Jersey shore if anyone wants to stop in and see them when the house is done.

To those who have used Mirage Engineered Wood in your kitchens, have you had any problems with it? I am concerned about water damage from everyday kitchen activities. Would you recommend it in the kitchen?

I loved my Mirage floor with the semi-gloss finish and used the Bona cleaner. It by far is the best floor. I recently installed the Appalachian Engineered Wood throughout our first floor, sincecwe wanted to go with the 4” planks. Still miss my Mirage. Here’s a photo of the Appalachian.

We installed Mirage white oak in cashmere finish about a year ago and we love it! 2 kids and an avid (messy) cook and it looks brand new. Like Jellytoast mentioned above, all you need is water and mcrofiber mop. We picked up a cheap on at home depot. Very nice floor — we are so happy with it!

Ssousy, your floors are beautiful!!

Thank you Ann are so are yours. Mirage makes a beautiful floor too!

Hi All. I saw a mirage floor I loved for our new house at the Jersey Shore. The thing is, several reviews said the finish is terrible and dents easily. We had a mirage floor in our last house, (built 24 years ago) and I didn't like them because they did dent and showed the dogs nail marks (not scratches, dents). The supplier we went to recommended Mirage. I was hopeful, (until I read the reviews) that after 24 years they would have made significant improvement. I would love to hear from some of you who have had mirage floors down for a while.

I am looking at the Sweet Memories, Gingerbread maple in Duramatte.

I’ve been living with my mirage Nordic white floors since February. They scratch, especially in the kitchen and there is an occasional dent but I have to get down on the floor to see them. The other areas of the house have far fewer dents/scratches so, clearly, we live harder in the kitchen. Even in the kitchen, the only time I notice the scratches is when I’m cleaning up spills.

Our last house had 200 year-Old heart pine floors with a satin finish poly and they dented/scratched. Ironically, the least scratches we’ve ever had on wood was a new white oak floor that we used a penetrating oil stain finish (no poly or other top coat) and it still looks perfect two years later. And dirt and dust don’t show on it as there is zero sheen.

So it’s the finish that scratches but I realize not everyone wants a wood floor without a top coat (and in the house where we used the oil stain on wood, the floor in the kitchen is limestone). I would imagine less sheen equals fewer scratches. But on my Nordic white maple floors, it’s really not noticeable. Of course, I have marble counters too so, clearly, imperfections don’t bother me! Hope this helps.

Hello,
We looked at Mirage floor Bubble Bath Whit Oak today and we are in love with it. But a lot review saids the floor dents easily even if a pen fall in the floor. Also we have a dog, some review shows dog and easily scratch up the floor. Is it true?
The sales in store told us we can use water to clean only Bona.

I am in love with the exotic African sapele but am struggling as to whether to go wit Lauzon or Mirage. My understanding is that they are both excellent manufacturers. My dilemma is with the titanium or nanolinx finish. Nanolinx from mirage seems to still be an aluminum oxide compound. I’m not sure what is exactly in the titanium finish from Lauzon but the salesman I spoke to said it’s harder than Mirage. Does anyone have any experience with which finish is stronger/harder?

"Does anyone have any experience with which finish is stronger/harder?"

If there is one, it's highly likely it can only be detected under laboratory settings. The sales guy may be misinterpreting things. All higher quality finishes will ding, dent and scratch to similar extent.

Ken Fisher

3/4" engineered hardwoods

Mirage totally uses SOFT wood. Dropping anything from a plate to a cell phone leaves a PERMANENT and UNFIXABLE DENT. Never encountered this living with with hardwood flooring in my 67 years. Deplorable product.

I think it depends on the wood you chose. Also, I wonder if folks who have not had engineered wood before might expect it to be as durable as solid hardwood. It just is not, but it is good. It will ding or dent, etc but that is living.

Very late to this thread, but hoping someone who has installed Mirage White Oak Isla in their home wouldn't mind sharing a pic? I am almost sold on this one, but would love to see some real pictures of this color in your home if you have it.

Any new reviews of how the mirage engineered R&Q floors have been holding up over the years? I am looking at the Natural White Oak Character Brushed. TIA!

Any updates on mirage solid hardwood white oak natural character brushed? I’m about to pull the trigger on it v raw wood and site finishing but I would love to know if the solid wood has the same “soft” issues.

@ jellytoast Did you go with Mirage Engineered hardwood? Are you still happy with the quality?

Thanks!!

Annie, did you end up going with the Mirage? How are you liking it?

I have both brands in my house. Both are engineered products and are glued to a concrete slab with BOSTICH Greenforce (highly recommended if you glue). The Luazon is red oak with a natural semi gloss finish. The Mirage is a graywashed white oak with a brushed type finish.

The Lauzon has about a 1mm thicker hardwood layer than the Mirage, The Mirage comes in longer lengths.

The Lauzon dents pretty easily. The Janka scale does not seem to be an accurate indicator with only a thin layer of hardwood over a softwood plywood. If you drop a small fork it will leave a ding unlike a solid wood floor. We are very careful with the dogs and even with that there are places where they have left some nice gouges with their nails

The mirage brushed finish white oak is a much more resilient product and of couse the flatter sheen hides more

Both have excellent milling, micro grooves, end matching, and the products are very uniform with hardly any culls.

Mirage has more species choices than Lauzon and would be my number one choice. Either one of these are great products and I would not try and cheap out on any engineered product, especially the glue if that's your install method. That said, these two compnies are not cheap, but you get what you pay for.

I have both brands in my house. Both are engineered products and are glued to a concrete slab with BOSTICH Greenforce (highly recommended if you glue). The Luazon is red oak with a natural, semi gloss finish.

The Mirage is a graywashed white oak with a brushed type finish.

The Lauzon has about a 1mm thicker hardwood layer than the Mirage, The Mirage comes in longer lengths.

The Lauzon dents pretty easily. The Janka scale does not seem to be an accurate indicator with only a thin layer of hardwood over a softwood plywood. If you drop a small fork it will leave a ding unlike a solid wood floor. We are very careful with the dogs and even with that there are places where they have left some nice gouges with their nails

The Mirage brushed finish white oak is a much more resilient product and of course the flatter sheen hides more

Both have excellent milling, micro grooves, end matching, and the products are extremely uniform with hardly any culls.

Mirage has more species choices than Lauzon and would be my number one choice. Either one of these are great products and I would not try and cheap out on any engineered product, especially the glue if that's your install method. That said, these two companies are not cheap, but you get what you pay for.