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Fertalizer?

9 years ago

Would a diluted 5-1-1 fish fertilizer work for succulents?

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  • 9 years ago

    Any fertilizer will work but you want on with low N. If your figures are N-P-K, the N is far too high and will encourage too much body growth too quickly,

    distantmermaid thanked s g
  • 9 years ago

    Ok...so then a very diluted miracle gro would work also if it's low in N?

  • 9 years ago

    Two good ones are Miracle Gro 12-4-8 and Foliage Pro 9-3-6 liquid.

    distantmermaid thanked ewwmayo
  • 9 years ago

    Diluting the fertilizer rather defeats the purpose of applying it. The needed minerals are very low in a diluted form. Buy a more suitable fertilizer.

  • 9 years ago
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    I haven't bought any fertilizer yet...because I don't know what to buy. There's a LOT of conflicting info about fertilizing succulents, fertalize, dont fertalize, dilute it to half strength, dilute it to 1/4 strength, only use manure tea, only use one with even numbers, only use a succulent fertalizer, fertalize once a week, or once a month or once a year....i could go on.....shoot i even found a site that said to fertalize them with urine! So i was hoping for suggestions on here....im pretty sure my plants would like some fertalizer but I'm scared lol

  • 9 years ago

    Perhaps if you tell us what kinds of plants you're growing & if indoors or out. These things make a difference in fertilizing if at all.

    Some of us grow succulents using little fertilizer if any, some succulents really don't need it.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    s g

    I respectfully disagree with your statement: ..."Diluting the fertilizer rather defeats the purpose of applying it. The needed minerals are very low in a diluted form. Buy a more suitable fertilizer"...

    Unfortunately, many ppl overfertilize. Overfeeding will cause more problems than underfeeding. Weakly - weekly is often recommended...(Even for us, eating few smaller portions during the day is much better than having a humongous meal...) Yes, suitable fertilizer is needed - but not for reasons you suggested.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Rina, the point I was trying to make was that diliuting the fertilizer to decrease the quantity of N in the mix means the other nutrients of P and K are in much smaller quantities as a result. If you used a more balanced mix in the first place, you could apply the fertilizer in the recommended dosage.

    Personally, I do not fertilize as a matter of course as I water throught the year. I repot year or biannually with most plants and incorporate a slow release fertilizer granule in my mix. For larger plants, I sprinkle the slow release granules around the base of the plant so whenever I water, some of it will be carried into the soil. I don't waste my money on 'specialist' fertilizers but look for one intended for flowering plants. These tend to have lower N and higher K ratios.

    distantmermaid thanked s g
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    s g

    Sorry if I understood it differently than it was meant :)

    I do not fertilize succulents either, but understand how ferts work. And definitely agree with 'specialized ferts' - most are just a money source for manufacturers; and while they 'force' the plants to do what they are 'designed' to do, it is not best way to grow plants...

    Kevin summarized it very well.

    distantmermaid thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 9 years ago

    Foliage Pro (9-3-6) by Dyna Gro is used extensively by those in the know for any containerized plant - houseplants, bonsai, citrus, cacti and succulents, indoor herbs, orchids, etc., etc., etc. I use it at half strength weekly or biweekly for most containers; at half strength once a month (give or take) from April through September for all my cacti and succs. I water very sparingly in winter and don't fertilize at all.

    distantmermaid thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Those that believe plants that appreciate low levels of N require a fertilizer with a low % of N (this, @ SG) are missing the fact that your fertilizer's NPK %s don't control how much N your plants get, the grower does. It is as easy to over-supply N with 1:1:1 ratio fertilizers like 14-14-14 or 7-7-7 as it is with 3:1:2 ratio fertilizers like 24-8-16, 12-4-8, and 9-3-6. The main difference between the two ratios (RATIO is different than NPK %s) is that the 3:1:2 ratio fertilizers supply other macro nutrients in a relationship that is appropriate for the amount of N used. 1:1:1 ratio fertilizers like 7-7-7 supply more K and MUCH more P than the plant can/will use as a function of N. So, using low N fertilizers finds the grower over-supplying P and K, no matter HOW much N is supplied. 3:1:2 ratio fertilizers like 9-3-6 et al, supply appropriate amounts of P and K, based on the volume of N supplied. It's much better to use a fertilizer that supplies a favorable RATIO of NPK, no matter what % of N it contains. You simply control the amount of N your plants get by the frequency of the applications and/or the concentration of the fertilizer solution.

    Al

    distantmermaid thanked tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
  • 9 years ago

    Awesome thanks everyone for the info....one more question....i have seen miracle gro perlite that says its enriched with MG plant food.....opinions on that? Thanks :)

  • 9 years ago

    MG perlite comes with barely any fertilizer at all. Does not really help or hurt anything.

    distantmermaid thanked ewwmayo
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I wouldn't buy it if more $ - not worth it for small amount of ferts.

    distantmermaid thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
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