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dogs and wood floors

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

We recently completed an apartment renovation and put down hardwood oak floors which were finished with water-based finish (2 coats of Pallmann 96 followed by a buff and 2 coats of Pallmann 98). Within a few weeks we had urine stains on the floors from our dogs - one which stained immediately and one which was hidden for about a week. We've tried using various stain removers with very limited success and at this point we are planning on trying an oil based poly in the hopes that that will resolve the issue and are looking for suggestions as to products or other types of wood finishes that will stand up to pet urine. Thanks

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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I would contact the people that finished your floors. I have a water base finish on my floors and in 15 years of pets and the grandchild, I've never seen anything like that!

    Is that a matte finish? No matter what finish they put on it, it's definitely not a good seal.

    If that stain is in the wood, it will probably need to be sanded out.

  • 8 years ago

    That's an oil finish. Not polyurethane. Not nearly as protective.

    Go back to Potty Training 101 and kennel them when they can't be supervised. Just like a two year old human.

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    8 years ago

    I agree with Sophie if you can’t be there to walk them they need to be kenneled , I love my dogs but if they can’t be trusted they are in kennels.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks - I have them in diapers now but they are seniors and rescues and unfortunately neither is crate trained (they get plenty of walks). I've had wood floors for years but only had this staining problem since we put down the Pallmann product on the oak floors which is why I'm looking for another option.

  • 8 years ago

    I would contact Pallmann and ask them about this/show them the photos. Urine can definitely stain if it sits, but, if you clean it up immediately, I don't think it should do this.

  • 8 years ago

    Hi - we had a Pallmann rep come by and take a look. He didn't have a solution other than cleaning it up right away (which we do...)

  • 8 years ago

    Did he say that what you're experiencing is normal/expected with the products that were used to finish your floor?! Or did he imply you're not cleaning it up promptly or something? I can totally understand why you aren't happy with this!

    I love the color of your floors as they are right now. Oil based poly will yellow, which may not be what you were hoping for.

    Aren't the pallmann 96/98 products supposed to be spot repairable? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I read that somewhere.

    You may need to have them refinished? If it comes to that...have you considered something like Rubio Monocoat? I don't have it on my floors, but I've heard good things about it, and it is supposedly spot repairable (moreso if you don't use one of the precolors). I don't know how it would be with urine (haven't heard anything about that).

    If you have to refinish, test out the products you are thinking about using. I'd make samples and actually try them out with dog urine. Nothing will protect the wood if it sits long enough, but, I think it's reasonable of you to expect your floors to be okay if you clean up an occasional accident within a few minutes.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @veggiegardnr - basically the Pallmann rep said the staining can happen from dog urine. The smaller dark stain happened within a few weeks after the floors were done (the staining occurred within a few hours) so it's possible it wasn't completely cured at that point. However the bigger stain was hidden under a piece of furniture so it was probably about a week old by the time we saw it. We did get it to lighten up a bit but it's still visible.

    We can spot finish but it does not solve the overall problem of staining if we do not see the urine right away. Our flooring contractor was looking into an option for us and I will take a look at the Rubio Monocoat.

    It just seems very strange that we have this problem and I wonder if it's the Pullmann finish or if this is potentially a problem with any water based finish and dogs. I've done tons of research but cannot find a solution short of using an oil based poly which is not environmentally friendly and will yellow.

  • 8 years ago

    "Go back to Potty Training 101 and kennel them when they can't be supervised. Just like a two year old human."

    You kenneled your children?

  • 8 years ago

    A lot of people use play pens for children.

    For my puppies, I attached an eyebolt to a kitchen cabinet baseboard, and attached a leash from the eyebolt to the puppy.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    "A lot of people use play pens for children."

    LOL

    And lots of parents use leashes to the wrists of children.

    This thread is about housebreaking. Playpens and leashes for children are not about that. DOH.

  • 8 years ago

    Salti, you asked about kenneling children.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Doh.

    Asked humorously in response to Sophie saying, "Go back to Potty Training 101 and kennel them when they can't be supervised. Just like a two year old human."

    You need to read and comprehend this thread.lol


  • 7 years ago
    Lisa- I’m experiencing the EXACT same thing with my floors and this product. We got the same advice on ALL kinds of doggie suggestions but it’s NOT normal for urine to go thru that poly THAT fast. Especially within 2 hours. We would see this stain in all kinds of people’s homes if this was “normal”. My friend had a boxer with failing kidneys, her hardwoods are still fine.

    I fixed one spot that had literally turned our floor black. I used peroxide and baking soda and had to refinish that spot. I’m not willing to continue this process. We paid a lot of money to have our floors refinished. Our flooring people contacted Pallman and Pallman is willing to send some free Poly but I’m thinking we need to change brands. What did you end up doing?
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