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“Hardy” mums

8 years ago

Hi,

im still new to gardening and this is only my second fall in my new house. So I’ve been doing lots of landscaping and redoing the gardens. For fall color I wanted to use Autumn joy sedum (working out great already) and hardy mums. The problem is I can’t twll what’s ACTUALLY hardy in Massachusetts zone 6b. Labels at big box stores claim to be hardy but I’m not sure. Anyone have advice on actual hardy mums that will come back each year and where to get them?


i just hate the thought of starting over every single year and wasting money

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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I couldn't get nhb''s link so I don't know which ones were listed

    These are hardy in Lexington m:

    1. Sheffield /Sheffield pink I have seen this at seasons 4 in Lexington and new England nurseries in bedford.

    Not in bloom yet but will bloom through November

    2 ;A straw colored "sheffield" name forgotten

    3. Will's Wonderful

    4 mei kyo (s misspelled )

    5. Lazy s farm has an excellent selection

    I think I have 2 or 3rd colo\s of mammoth mums.

    New England nurseries perennials are all half price.

    I think it is, late to plant any mum and expect it to return I'm spring .

    If you can get it on sale then it is worth trying

    You are welcome to see what I have in bloom in a couple weeks. Then in spring I could give you generous divisions.

    Marie lexington ma

    Kali C thanked Marie Tulin Boston burbs z 6a
  • 8 years ago

    Avant Gardens has 5 fully hardy mums on their list if you scroll down the linked page. You can do mail order or call or email to set up a time to go visit since I think their open days are done for the year. They are largely mail order, but do open several weekends a season for visits but also will set up appointments.

    Kali C thanked NHBabs z4b-5a NH
  • 8 years ago

    Have you considered asters, too? Don't know if you already have those as a part of your fall garden.

  • 8 years ago

    Hi Deanna,

    i actually recently learned about/saw asters after posting this question and think they’re gorgeous!! Trying to figure out the best place to buy them

  • 8 years ago

    From my experiences planting mums this time of year as annuals, surviving is very hit or miss. Maybe half make it, but it depends on the winter. The fall ones are usually sold by color around here, so researching names is impossible. They need frequent division, so take a certain amount of work.

    Asters, and the daisy mums are nice, but aren't really the same creature as the cushion mums.

  • 8 years ago

    I have found that some of the asters sold in local garden centers at this time of year along with the nonhardy mums also aren't hardy. I look in the spring at my usual perennial suppliers, and always check for mildew resistance since some are prone to getting powery mildew and so look pretty battered by the time the flowers start up.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Thanks for the tips everyone!

    im other just have to get mums next spring.

    the garden I want to put them in is against the house, which is up on a hill. So there’s be very little wind chill and warmth from the house. I might buy a couple and just see what happens :)


    i didn’t realize how frequently they need to be divided. But that might even be a good thing so I can have more plants quickly haha

  • 8 years ago

    It gives you all winter to pick your varieties! I assume that since they bloom in fall, the spring planting is better for them and allows them to get established before bloom time. I added Aster 'Raydon's favorite' and mum 'Sheffield Pink' (which also has some other names) and they are doing well this fall. I lost my seedlings of Aster 'Alma Potschke' to slugs but I am determined to find more of that, especially after sped's picture in another thread!

    Aster 'Purple Dome' is usually very popular in stores now, and is also supposed to be dependably hardy, although I have no personal experience with them. Maybe it would be a good one to try this fall

  • 8 years ago

    If you plan on buying in the spring, assume you will have to mail order. Local garden centers don't tend to automatically stock fall bloomers in the spring

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for the advice about mail ordering Mad gallica, I’ve found a few good sites that actually deliver really well :)


    deanna so sorry to hear about your seedlings! I hope you’re able to successfully grow some new ones. Always so heart breaking when they don’t pan out. I’ve personally not been able to get any cuttings to root properly (of roses). They always get mold. But I took thicker cuttings today to try to propagate indoors :) hopefully we both have luck!

  • 8 years ago

    Call around, too. I was surprised that my local greenhouses did have 'Raydon's favorite,' which was on my list. They had several other asters/mums which I do not remember because I was not window shopping at the time. I purchased my Chrysanthemum 'Hillside Sheffield Pink' through the mail. I love the fact that mail-order plants are small because they are not root bound and are SO SO EASY to plant. However, for the mums I would have liked larger. The asters are putting on a fantastic show for their first fall, whereas the mums have probably less than 10 flowers. They'll be out of diapers next year, but for now they're still small.

    Call around and see if your nurseries are going to get any in, but mail-order is the sure-fire way. I got my mums from Select Seeds and they were in fantastic shape. It helps that SS is just a couple of states away from me, which means the time the plants spent in a box during shipment was very short. Now I try to find online order suppliers that are both dependable and close when possible.

  • 8 years ago

    Kali,

    I have 3 different mums blooming now. I'd be happy to divide in spring for you. You can see them in bloom now, if you wish

  • 8 years ago

    Hi Marie,

    So sorry I forgot to respond to this. My life has been a little hectic lately to say the least :/

    Thats such a kind offer! I ended up buying some mums on clearance for $1.49 each (I was walking by them at Home Depot and figured “why not”) and will see how they turn out (if not I only wasted about $10). If they turn out not to survive the winter I might take you up on your very generous offer :)

    i hope all your fall preparations are going smoothly!

  • 8 years ago

    Oh, and Montauk daisies are a nice fall flower and I'm in a zone 6 and they do well here.