Software
Houzz Logo Print
laura_duffy68

Bad granite installation. Help!

9 years ago

We had our granite countertop installed today and the installers hacked away at the sink base cabinets so much so that at the front of the sink there is only about 3/4” of melamine supporting the countertop weight. Our granite came in two pieces and In the middle of the sink is also where the seam is. We are very concerned because the installers cut the base cabinet way more than necessary and there isn’t enough support. One of the installers even said “I wouldn’t lean on it”. Needless to say, we’re very concerned (and have already contacted the company.) Im waiting to hear back from them, but in the meantime, can anyone offer any suggestions to provide more support. It seems crazy to me that

we should be worried about leaning on a countertop, what if I need to lean over the sink to wash dishes or set a heavy pot of water down for a second as I pull it out of the sink?



Comments (8)

  • 9 years ago

    don't lean on it?? wth? do not pay them. those flimsy metal brackets are rated for, what, 25 lbs?? maybe? this is just a 'no'. throw a fit and get your new cabinet. IF they cut it more than necessary, why wasn't this addressed at the time?

  • 9 years ago

    Totally unacceptable...in so many ways.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I can't even imagine somebody installed that like that and actually had the brackets with them showing they must do this often?

    Shelf brackets with sheet rock screws into MDF or particle board. What can go wrong? Wha i the back 3/8 thick?

    DONT PAY THEM AND START FRESH.

    At the very least build a wood support frame holding up the sink but that would be at last resort.

    Im hoping there is more to this then we are seeing?

  • 9 years ago

    3/4" granite needs a minimum 5/8" plywood underlayment for support, "no MDF and no particleboard. This method is mostly used on the West Coast. On the East Coast, 1 1/4" is common and is considered strong enough to not require an underlayment and is not used. Underlayment also gets used depending on the edging.


    Take a look at the thickness of the granite and report back.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Firstly, the sink is too large for the cabinet, which does not appear to be a proper sink base. Granite requires rough tops. Why do granite without putting an edge on it? Bad design, improper materials, a hack job from the ground up. You need to replace the cabinet, install a smaller sink, then do rough tops and proper fabrication and installation.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The pictured wood-shim-and-polyester-over-the-flange method of supporting a sink is a guaranteed failure without additional support. I'm not crazy about the shelf brackets. I'd be a toughie, but you could still get a Hercules Universal Sink Harness (Braxton Bragg) or a Sink Strap (Regent Stone Products) to support the sink. If you did, you could stand in the sink without repairing/replacing the cabinet.

    The front rail on frameless cabinets is nearly only decorative in nature; it functions as a doorstop and as a stretcher to keep the cabinet sides apart when the HUSH or Sink Strap try to pull them together. I wouldn't worry about it. When you strap the sink in place, you've turned the sink into a 9" deep stainless steel truss which supports the stone better than any melamine.

    I'd make sure they applied a generous bead of silicone between the sink flange and the granite bottom. See if you can slip a thin knife between them, please. A topical bead is useless.

    If they can't/won't do a strap, angled aluminum can be fastened below the cut melamine to support the stone:


  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    "3/4" granite needs a minimum 5/8" plywood underlayment for support, "no MDF and no particleboard."

    5/8" plywood on the flat has virtually no strength in tension, especially in this application it's useless.