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Sweet alyssum

9 years ago

Will sweet allysum grow here or is it too hot. I prefer candy tuft but I don't think it grows here either?

I am planting a little rose hedge and I want to plant a living mulch, from seed if I can. It would have some shade from the roses and a society garlic border.

What other low growing plants would work well. I'll probably use a little Nepeta but I want something even shorter also.

The roses are pink, any suggestions?

Comments (14)

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks! When do you usually start your seeds? Is it too late?

  • 9 years ago

    I've never grown nasturtiums. I'll give them a try too.

  • 9 years ago

    You can start them now, last season I grew a compact variety in peach and pink colors, this picture is from March of another year.

    Silvia


    suncoastflowers thanked whgille
  • 9 years ago

    I started some Sweet alyssum from seeds last year and I have a patch that has stayed the whole year! It is small compared to winter/spring, but it is still alive.

    suncoastflowers thanked SweetMonkeyCheese Z9 Tampa
  • 9 years ago

    I start my alyssum from seed in early March. It does great until the really hot weather hits and then it dies away.

    suncoastflowers thanked bea (zone 9a -Jax area)
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I have 1 side of the bed dug, amended and 3 roses planted, the cool breeze is helpful but frequent breaks are required! Fortunately the other side is a little shorter and has two roses going in.

    I think I have some seed packages on hand. I am planning on planting the society garlic and the seeds tomorrow AM if I can move!

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I havent heard of nepeta/catnip growing here due to heat so i dont think it'd be a nice long lasting ground cover unfortunately but you might as well try it out if it's cheap/from seed
    As for what goes with the rose: Are we talking a lighter/softer pink? (I'm assuming a paler pink because that is more common for a rose than a hot pink). If so, I think pale yellows and blues would go well with pink.

    Something like these (you probably are already familiar but that's a pale yellow dwarf lantana.. also a weed dayflower but i like it with the lantana so i dont pull it up there lol)

    I think something with thin leaves and an airy appearance would complement the roses, something easy like Gaura (get a taller variety if you're pairing it with a groundcover).

    Other low-growers I have experience with:

    • Dwarf
      morning glory 'Blue Daze' (not a true morning glory, does not seed
      everywhere). Greyish tint to leaves. Easy to find for sale. Probably
      easy to propagate via division but I haven't tried it.
    • Creeping
      Rosemary. Downside with this is that you'd have to buy a bunch since
      they don't really spread and aren't realistically obtained via seed.
    • False Heather. Also commonly available. I haven't seen it spread before.
    • Evergreen thyme species. I have seen lemon thyme specifically used as a groundcover here
    • Strawberries. Evergreen in this zone and
      (obviously) useful. I actually find them quite ornamental with their
      dark green toothed leaves.
    • Verbena (various species), similar to lantana.

    Possibles:

    • 'Nana' coreopsis (no experience with this, i'm trying it next year)
    • Roman
      chamomille (flowers less than the annual German kind) I have a few of
      these and they are low-growing and might be evergreen so there's
      groundcover potential
    • White-veined pipevine. I'm trying this one out, they're a host plant for the Pipevine swallowtail and officially are part shade plants but I've heard they're pretty adaptable so I'm testing them. Not a climber unlike relatives.
    • Aaand Sweet potato is not suited for growing around roses imo (due to their need for air flow and it's rampant growth, it doesn't climb but it does crowd around the crowns of plants rapidly) but it's a good filler groundcover otherwise especially in areas you trample quite a bit, such as round a hose. Plus, you can cook the young leaves like spinach so even the ornamental varieties are useful

    Also Sweet Alyssum is very cute-looking, though! I might have to try it next fall c:

    suncoastflowers thanked (Jay/Jax FL/Zone 9a)
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes, light-med pink (Summer Romance). These are great ideas. Thank you for the suggestions.

    I grew coreopsis in NC and loved it. Blue Daze is very pretty and seems readily available -that would be a really nice ground cover. I never would have thought of strawberries. It's such a charming plant.

    I have lantana growing behind it on the other side of the fence.

    THANKS!! For the info on thyme. I love herbs with roses but for some reason I didn't think thyme would grow well here. I love Rosemary with roses too. I have a regular one but a prostrate Rosemary is a great thought. I bet I could get some cuttings to take if I need to

  • 9 years ago

    Sweet alyssum is fragrant too. I wish we could grow Candytuft here.

  • 9 years ago

    No problem ! glad i could help

    If you can't get the thyme to work (though I see no reason why not since I know people who do grow it) there is a native plant, Dotted Horsemint Monarda punctata that has leaves which contain thymol and is edible/can be used as a herb (it's a relative of bee balm). I find the flowers very unique. There's a short cultivar called 'Beebop' that I'm currently trying out and there's mature wild-type specimens cultivated in parking lot strips of a local college so I think it's reasonably hardy/easy. Just thought I'd mention it because I find them pretty neat

    One last thing: since you're into herbs you also might want to look into 'Phenomenal' Lavender. It's been performing well for me (and it's an English+French lavender hybrid, NOT a Spanish lavender) which I'm happy about because before this cultivar I was told lavenders simply cannot work in Florida.

    (I got the lavender from Santa Rosa Gardens online since I haven't seen it offered locally)

    suncoastflowers thanked (Jay/Jax FL/Zone 9a)
  • 9 years ago

    Oh the lavender sounds lovely! That was another one I thought was out. We have the wild dotted horsemint in a natural area and I went to try to collect a few seeds but it wasn't late enough. I think I would rather have a short variety. I'll look those two varieties up.

    The coreopsis I have grown in the past but when looking I saw a dark pink/reddish & white version. I think that us going in my list with the yellow coreopsis. I have grown chamomile and echinacea in another area but those would be good too. I have a Rosemary plant currently but it needs a new location so I may transplant it but I expect it will get huge here!

  • 9 years ago

    Well... I no longer have it, hubby ran it over with the lawn mower! To survive a whole year in the Florida heat and bugs only to be ran over! Lol

  • 9 years ago

    Happens in my yard alll the time. That or the weedwackerr!

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