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Kitchen Island Waterfall Mishap

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Hello everyone. We had chosen a Quartzite and decided that we wanted a waterfall finish for the kitchen island. The fabricator was on board and said it could be done. Turns out, the material was not cooperating and he said he could not make it work. The result is not what we desired, but it doesn't exactly look bad either. I know the waterfall look is very trendy, but what we haven't isn't exactly a waterfall at all.


Does it look bad?


Some options we have thought of at the moment are to: either push out the side slabs so that they are flush with the top slab, however they will not be flush with the ends as the bottom slabs are not the same length as the top; remove the side slabs altogether and put in traditional side panels, or; leave as is if the consensus is that it looks fine.

Comments (40)

  • 8 years ago

    Easy to see why you'd be disappointed with what the fabricator produced. Seems like the fabricator really missed the mark. Did he say why the slab is two layers? I hope you can either get the work redone for free, or get your money back. Also, would love updates on this situation.

  • 8 years ago

    If you had no idea what a waterfall was supposed to look like, you would probably think it looked fine. But to anyone who does know, it looks like a failed attempt. It's a case where expectations will make someone judge it more harshly.

  • 8 years ago

    I would go with remove. I'm not feeling that look at all. Looks like a DIY job...

  • 8 years ago

    I would go with remove as well. There is no hiding those edges on the vertical pieces. What a shame.

  • 8 years ago

    Sorry to say but this is not a mishap; this is just a hack job. Even if you remove the sides you are left with a really bad attempt at mitered edges. This is a very busy choice which makes it more difficult but fabricators who are experienced with this material can do a great job. Also the 3/4 wall slab backsplash is not working for you. Hard to see but hopefully the edges on the peninsula aren't as bad but maybe so. I don't think this can be fixed.

  • 8 years ago

    What's that big wall of countertop doing? Is it fixed there?

  • 8 years ago

    Remove, remove, remove. Remove now.

    Admittedly, I have no love of gray and white, but I think the problem here is that the pattern is way too strong /there's too much of it. It overwhelms the room.

  • 8 years ago

    Absolutely not acceptable. Make them fix it. Neither of the options you've been presented with are acceptable. Push them to deliver the waterfall installation they agreed upon.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I'd remove the "legs". It's overwhelming with so much pattern. Or remove everything and do the island as a color block of solid white or black, including cabinets.

  • 8 years ago

    Wow! What a beautiful and distinctive stone. I am so dissapointed for you that this didn’t turn out as you had envisioned!

    I’m going to be another vote for removing the sides. It looks like a mistake that just doesn’t match the clean modern lines in the rest of the kitchen. The wall with the slab backsplash will be a focal point when the range and range hood are in, so you will be able to enjoy a verticle application of the stone even without the waterfall edge.

    Good luck! Can’t wait to see i finished product!

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you all for your feedback. I appreciate the opinions. Overall, it seems like te consensus is to remove the side slabs so that is what we are going to do. We will have to see what type of panel we put in it’s place. Perhaps a solid white panel will make it easier on the eyes.


    As for the backsplash on the 3/4 wall that some were asking about, we had an inspirational photo of this:

    Thats what we were going for. I know some might not like it, but I think it looks good on the wall and like a previous poster mentioned, I think it’ll look great with the range and range installed.


    If if anyone has any more ideas or thoughts for our kitchen, I’d love to hear it!

  • 8 years ago

    I think the quartzite sides plus range wall is too much - one or the other would be fine. I do think the wall will be nice once the hood is in place, though it looks a bit wonky not going to the ceiling. Were does the vent go?

  • 8 years ago

    Removing the failed waterfall seems best option provided. I am curious what type of edge the island and perimeter is finished with? It does not appear to be finished well. Look at the edges of your inspiration pic and your edges---looks like two one inch slabs glued together trying to look like a 1.5-2" slab. Something seems off from your pics.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I like the vertical slab on the wall...

    I dunno, I think I might have the whole island top and sides removed because I don't care for the stacked edges either. Was it because the material could not be mitered? I think I would look at a plain white or plain grey quartz for the island and don't bother with a waterfall unless they can definitely do it in the other material.

  • 8 years ago

    As for the edges, I agree it’s not ideal. He said the material was difficult to work with and would crack easily and that’s why he had to cut it like that.


    The hood old is another issue we are thinking about now. My wife says to just have it go up to the top of the wall and end there, like the inspiration picture. While I think it’s best to go all the way to the ceiling and vent outside. Another option is to just buy a hood that doesn’t have a stack and call it a day.

  • 8 years ago

    I would look at island type hoods that would float in front of the stone, and go up and out the roof.

  • 8 years ago

    @Eric Marti Love the Inspo pic. Hope you can get it corrected.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    That backsplash really needs to go the the ceiling like your inspiration photo. Now, it looks like it's propped up there. Hood should also look like photo.

  • 8 years ago

    Anglophilia said exactly what I was going to say. make it go to the ceiling. it looks like a partition. if you can't, then move it over to the window wall and have it cut for that one. (by a different fabricator)

    why did you fabricator not do a waterfall? I want to know what his excuse was? did he tell you ahead of time as ask for you ok to continue, or did he just bring it to you like this? did you sign a contract that's clearly waterfall? did he see the pic?

    the reason I'm asking all this is because he ruined this slab. So why should you eat the cost ? if you have to settle for something you didn't want to begin with, then I would hope you would be getting a severe discount.

  • 8 years ago

    That would be a no. Your fabricator just wasn't very good. I would either get a full refund and pull it all or pull all the side pieces and get a refund for that.

  • 8 years ago

    The slab stopping short of the short of the ceiling is related to the wall behind it stopping short of the ceiling. That decision is from back in the framing stage.

    That said, I don't mind that that floats since the ceiling is not flat.

    I think it could look good with the proper sort of hood and a plainer island.



  • 8 years ago

    He said the material was difficult to work with and would crack easily and that’s why he had to cut it like that.

    Did he tell you this beforehand, or after the fact?

  • 8 years ago

    I agree with palimpsest and like the 3/4 wall with the proper hood selection. Right now it looks like a half finished wall with the slab precariously perched. Is that a well supported wall, because from the camera angle it looks thin...Do you have pictures of the wall end on?

    The stone on the wall and perimeter counters have a lovely strong pattern which will really shine if the island stone is a quiet complementary color. Think quartz, which could be done as a water fall.


  • 8 years ago

    Yikes, sorry to say I'm not a fan of that look at all. Way too much going on especially with the pattern of the stone. It kinda looks like the whole room is zebra print now :/ I would get rid of the sides and the random separation slab.

  • 8 years ago

    Intense vertical stone with less intense but still patterned travertine and `other stone to a nice effect in the Barcelona Pavilion, which is why I like the vertical stone with the white cabinets. But I would really consider toning down the island since it's a redo to some extent, anyway,

    Eric Marti thanked palimpsest
  • 8 years ago
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    I’m with Lena. Waaaay too much stripey-ness.

  • 8 years ago

    "Right now it looks like a half finished wall with the slab precariously perched. Is that a well supported wall, because from the camera angle it looks thin...Do you have pictures of the wall end on?"

    See the first picture posted by the OP above. It shows the wall behind the upright slab.

  • 8 years ago

    You have a bad fabricator! There's no reason why this couldn't have been done properly. Unless the material was dissolving like sand, in which case it's not quartzite, its marble. Tear the whole thing out and have it done right.

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you all for your help. To answer some questions, no we didn't expect this to come out this way or agree to this. We wanted mitered edges and he said it couldn't be done because the material was breaking and too difficult to work with. I agree that it doesn't look like it should and we are quite upset about this. The fabricator dropped the ball big time and we were left with a hack job. However, we don't exactly have the money to go out and buy a whole new set of material because it was quite expensive and we still have other renovations to account for. Unfortunately, we have to deal with what we have.


    The fake waterfall side panels were removed and I think it already looks a bit better. Now we will have to find someone to make us some nice side panels to cover the cabinets.

    As for the large back piece, I know some people might like it and some might not, but I think when the range, hood, and perhaps some nice shelves, are installed, it will look better. There is still another cabinet missing which is supposed to go next to the lone cabinet by the vertical slab.

  • 8 years ago

    So sorry you're going through this, but I think the counter and wall panel you have will be beautiful. Be sure you get your money back for all the extra stone that was wasted! Hope the rest goes much more smoothly.

    Eric Marti thanked acm
  • 8 years ago

    well if the fabricator dropped the ball and ruined the slab, then won't you be getting a refund of some sort?? I can't imagine you paying the price you agreed to beforehand, and not getting what you wanted because of his error. Now you have two wasted side panels of that stone? can they be used anywhere else?


  • 8 years ago

    I do intend on getting a refund. The slabs were not purchased from him so that cost us gone but I will definitely have to factor that, as well as the poor job in general, into the price we pay for the work.

    As for the wasted side panels, I suppose we can always use them for an outdoor bbq or bar area. It might be enough to provide for a small dry bar or something like that.


  • 8 years ago

    Eric Marti, if you don't mind my saying, good for you in keeping the large back piece of Quartzite. I think with the fake waterfall gone, it looks very attractive. As someone very wise here has said (and I kept as my own kitchen reno mantra) do what makes your heart sing.

    Eric Marti thanked 2ManyDiversions
  • 8 years ago

    I don't how this fabricator can destroy your stone by giving you something that you didn't ask for or approve, and then just walk away from it unscathed. If he couldn't do the job as agreed, he should have stopped until something else was agreed upon.

  • 8 years ago

    Bad bad bad fabricator, I work in the kitchen and bath industry and even I know how difficult quartzite is to work with. We always recommend clients keep things simple when working with that stuff. Its a gorgeous product but oh man did it get screwed up here. I'm so sorry it didnt work out the way you expected

  • 8 years ago

    What an improvement without the legs on the island! Hope you get a refund from the fabricator. I always feel bad because I know they worked hard, but he should have realized he was out of his depth working with this high end material and passed on the job.

    I am also applauding you for keeping the backsplash! Right now everyone is focused on the very strong pattern and contrast, but it will become a focal point once the installation is complete and the room has been styled. Natural stone can really be used as a work of art in some cases and I’m sticking to my original opinion that it will look even better when everything else is in place!

    Make sure you post pictures when it is complete!


  • 8 years ago

    Now we need to talk countertop support.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    "Now we need to talk countertop support."


    Only if the cantilever exceeds 10".

  • 8 years ago

    It looks like a foot from here.

    I thought it was >9"?