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New 6A climbing rose help.

8 years ago

Hi all! New to the site and plan to stay. I am retired military and have found an uncontrollable obsession with growing roses.

I love climbing roses and currently have golden showers which I bought late July and it was cheap. ( good for first trial run ) it came in a 1 gallon pot with a mini lattice and already had flowers but was still rather small in the muscle department. I planted into ground near deck as I’m using it for a privacy screen eventually. I didn’t use any fertilizer. I will this spring. Without fertilizer it grew 2 canes to 5 feet and 3 more to half that but those canes are still skinny a bit. The 2 tallest ones are thick.

So here is what I did. I watered it pretty much every day with a gallon bucket filled up to a 3” line that was marked. One of those green ones from menards. I then got some small lattice with ties and attached 3 canes to the left and 2 to the right. Was scared at first cause I didn’t want to snap a cane. I angled as I read to get more blooms and spur vertical growth which it did.

anyways, got a bad storm and then some strong wind days going into September so I untied the 2 biggest canes and just left them alone. The smaller ones I kept secured. It’s not huge but it definitely isn’t a runt. So the 2 released canes were growing upwards and the tied ones were getting leafy with vertical growth. The flowers on this climber is amazing. Started to get cold so I knew season was ending, the flowers it had remaining were having a tough time blooming open so I cut them off at the bottom of the flower. I read not to prune for first couple years so I just removed the flowers and rose hips. I then staked 4 sturdy stakes in ground rising 6 feet, secured canes lightly to stakes and then wrapped it with burlap. This was around 4th of November and next day we were getting snow storm so I figured it was time. The plant was still green with all its foliage when I wrapped. Lately with weather being erratic it goes from cold to warm etc.... ok now for the questions.

1. Did I wrap it too early for 6A zone? If it was to early what will happen?

2. Was I supposed to remove all foliage myself? Or wait till they fell off?

3. I would like to transplant the Rose into a raised bed 4’ high x 6’ long x 3 1/2’ deep that I built. I’m worried I might hurt it? Will it stunt the growth of the plant if it’s in raised bed (like a pot?)

4. I plan on picking up 4-5 more climbers which at the moment are new eden, Don Juan and possibly Joseph’s coat. I’m using for privacy screens so would like constant rebloom, good growth,vigorous and disease resistant if possible for 6A here in Michigan. Any recommendations? Any color is fine but not flattish roses like iceberg

5. I plan to get from heirloom roses unless someone from Michigan near Ann Arbor knows a great local source or someone recommends good places.

thank you everyone!

again sorry for the long post, but hopefully I can get some guidance and learn some valuable knowledge.




Comments (8)

  • 8 years ago

    Looked it up, and it's good to zone 3. I wouldn't have bothered wrapping it. I'm no expert though.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks witch and moses for the info. Moses the height on the box is 4 foot high. Wife wants to put layer of rocks bottom (it’s open) for drainage with a layer of mulch and peat. I would say it would have no less than 3 feet of fresh soil in the dimensions on last post. I want to put the climber in there cause it sucks to bend over from military war injury. Bad back. Anyways if it doesn’t stunt the growth of the plant I will move it. When is best time to transplant anyways? I did a few teas in August and they were fine.

    i basically built a 6 foot planter box where 3 full lattice sheets are bolted into place. Basically matches my deck and I wanna block out neighbors on both sides for privacy.


    Thoughts? Thanks again for info.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I grew Golden Showers for years--long before I had any idea how to grow roses. So let me assure you that that is one tough plant that can largely take care of itself. It has some rambler in its background, so feel free to let it ramble--that way the branches will naturally extend outward and help produce more blooms. The one thing I noticed about GS is that it likes regular watering. Any time it quit producing blooms, all I had to do was give it a good watering, and voila--blooms.

    The negative side of GS is that the blooms are not good at holding their shape and don't last very long. But they are so abundant and cheerfully yellow that I never noticed that much from a distance. Don't know how that will be for you with it planted closer to where you will view it.

    Golden Showers--probably 6-10 years old.

    You will have to spray it periodically with a fungicide. Definitely does have some problems with blackspot, but not the worst one in the world.

    I'm inclined to think your planter box may not be large enough. My GS threw long canes 7-10 feet in the air and then arched , extending out sideways. For support, I put a strong metal rod securely in the ground--it was maybe 6 ft tall and attached a cheap fanshaped trellis (about 5 ft tall) to the rod and attached GS (in fanshape) to the trellis--but the long canes extended way beyond the trellis.

    It got RRD disease after about 12 years and I had to dig it up. I seem to remember that the roots went quite deep and spread rather wide.

    As for winter protection, I didn't do anything to protect it. It might have received a bit of protection from the leaves blowing over from the big oak tree in my neighbor's yard, but that would have been minimal. Like I said, it is tough.

    If I had room, I might want to plant it again. It used to get good comments from visitors to the garden.

    Kate

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Found a couple more older pics of Golden Showers:

    You can get more sense of its sprawl here (but ignore the neighbor's mess I was hoping to block out).

    Here you can see Molineux in the foreground--about 3.5 ft tall--and Golden Showers to the rear right side of the photo. Gives you an idea of its height.

    Here is the Golden Showers bloom looking its best. Unfortunately it flops open within a day, so don't plant GS for the shape of its bloom!

    Kinda fun digging out my old GS photos. I kinda miss this rambler now.

    Good luck with yours.

    Kate

  • 8 years ago

    Hello Kate thanks for the reply and pics. You are right on the flowers. Mine would last a day or two before flattening out. Still not bad but the color on these are really nice. So are you saying box might not be big enough because of root system? Or spreading in width as it matures? If it goes in box I plan to control it’s spreading. Just wondering if it would stunt its growth as in like putting it in a 1 gallon pot. Maybe I’m wrong Dunno.

    Thanks again for the reply and pics.

  • 8 years ago

    My lion's fairy tale blooms are like that, and I hate it. I've yet to see one that looked like the picture that caused me to get it. Blink, and they're open. lol Pretty though, when you have a big climber full with them going and going. I keep looking at the pic at chamblees wondering how they got that photo (of lion)? Sorry for the ramble, it's just good to know the blooms that do that, because I know I don't care for it. Nice photos Kate.

  • 8 years ago

    Check out Palatine Roses and Antique Rose Emporium to order from as well. Is your GS in a pot right now? Are you sure Ann Arbor is Z6, I think you might be Z5? I'm guessing Eden and Joseph's Coat will not be cane hardy for you. Search around here on the forum, there are a bunch of threads about cold zone climbers. Happy shopping!