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Need advice on old cabinet hinges (rusting and peeling paint)

8 years ago

Hello Houzz,


I am having my bathroom remodeled, but keeping some of the original retro characteristics (house was built in 1941), including the original cabinets (they don't make them like they used to), which I just had painted white and installed new knobs on. The issue I'm having is the original hinges look horrible. They have been painted on with many layers over the years, so they aren't easy to remove. After they were painted white the other day, rust started showing through. Then I asked the painter to fix it, so they painted another layer, which immediately started bubbling up and peeling off to reveal the ugly rusted off-white hinges (I believe they were originally painted off-white with an oil paint many years ago). See photos below.


My question is, the painters are saying the only way to remedy this is to get new hinges (if we can find them) or to remove them and soak them in lacquer thinner to take off the old paint. I actually don't mind the parts where they are painted on the door, it's just the hinge part that looks awful. My concern is that I have a whole kitchen of these, too, so it will be extremely time-consuming to try to remove them to either replace or clean. I am wondering if anyone has any idea of a way to remedy it without having to remove them? I was thinking maybe they could be cleaned up well with a metal brush or steel wool and perhaps there's a light layer of white paint that will stick well and cover the rust? Any ideas or suggestions?



Comments (23)

  • 8 years ago

    They are readily available and can be extremely cheap but measure the depth of the overlap or they won't fit properly. Here is the exact one I bought a couple years ago. I didn't know about a possible difference in overlap until I repaired another hinge in the house.

    Remove and either clean or replace them. Once you get into the swing of it it isn't so bad. Your hinges may be heavier than replacements. I didn't care, wanted the bit of bling and my originals weren't bright brass. If you are seeing rust then they may be failing anyway.

    smarxthespot thanked Kathy Yata
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, Sina. I have about 50 total, so it will be a project! I had no idea this would happen and they would look awful like this and the painter didn't alert me to it, so I'm learning as I go. Hopefully we can remedy this!

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Glopping more paint on everything was not the solution. The cabinets need to be excellent quality. Because what you need to do is to strip all of the old paint off of everything. Hinges and cabinets both. If the cabinets are not worth your effort to do that, then it is time for replacement.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, Kathy! That's a great price! If I can find them that cheap, then I will just replace them all. Let me see if those measurements work.

  • 8 years ago

    The first time the cabinets were painted the job was done by non professionals. Professionals would have removed all the doors and hardware, painted only the wood, and reinstalled the hardware. Once the mistake was made, subsequent painters just continued painting over the hinges.

    smarxthespot thanked dchall_san_antonio
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    What kind of painter paints hinges this is a DIY job where people are too lazy to remove the hinges, then paint then reinstall . Take them all off either strip them or IMO just get new ones. And yes it is time consuming that is why you have the mess you have now, people too lazy to it right.

    smarxthespot thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 8 years ago

    I know! Unfortunately, I am dealing with years of laziness! LOL!

  • smarxthespot thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I'm surprised your painting didn't take the hinges off to begin with. I would recommend buying new ones for them to look best. My home was built in the 50's and I to have an entire house of things previous owners just painted over instead of taking off to paint, hinges, registers, switch plates, you name it. It's a work in progress for sure, but we are just replacing everything.

    smarxthespot thanked Verona Home Design
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Do it right. Take these off and strip strip strip (include cabs imho) . You can do one or two at a time, and yours are flat, I believe...

    You'll be happier and feel proud of your accomplishments. It's messy, but easy work.

    Oh and to get your existing hinges off, just use a dab of stripper on the screws until the paint softens enough to get a screwdriver in there.

    Consider yourself lucky that things were kept and painted rather than thrown out and replaced with lesser quality.

    Good luck! We demand progress pics!!

    smarxthespot thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    Came here to give the advice Sherry gave - crock pot.

    smarxthespot thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    Apparently I'm not the only one who knows about the magic of soaking painted metal in hot water and a little detergent overnight. This Old House did it on a show a few years ago. The paint falls right off.

    https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-strip-paint-hardware

    smarxthespot thanked tatts
  • 8 years ago

    I would just get an old paint can and some lacquer thinner and then put all the hardware in there and let it soak overnight. Put it outside though or it will stink up the house. Toothbrush is a great way to get all the paint off. Soaking lead based paint in a crock pot doesn't seem like a good idea if you are going to cook out of that to me.

    smarxthespot thanked paintguy22
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, everyone! I took the advice of an old pot and boiling water (tried both dish soap and baking soda and I think the baking soda worked better), letting them soak for 30 minutes and here are the results. They have a really neat art deco design, but the color/finish is not going to work for me. I think I may have to get new ones, unless anyone has any suggestions for prettying these up? My knobs are a bright, shiny chrome. These have a 5/8" inset, so they aren't the easiest to find replacements for.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Putting money and effort into new hinges on those awful glopped over coated cabinets is a complete waste. Put some effort into stripping one of those cabinets first to se if any of this is worth wasting effort on.

    Not everything old is worth salvaging. Some of it should be trashed and replaced. Don’t be penny wise and pound foolish here. It’s a waste of resources.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Nice job.

    Do you have a dremel? If not, I see one in your future...very handy little tools that come with buffer wheels and paste. That would be my first attempt. If not, some of the Rustoleum spray paints are pretty amazing. I had these on cupboards once and I remember we were never able to quite match the offset part in newer ones.

    Hopefully Beth will chime in as she has extensive knowledge of spray paint ( it's come a long way as far as durability and adhesion goes)

    I'm sure you'll be stripping the cupboards next... :) A mouse sander is very comfy to use and will probably be purchase number 2....I love mine. And, to be honest, my time is valuable, but I have more time than money, whereas Sophie has more money than time, maybe...?

  • 8 years ago

    Yeah Sophie loves to tell people how cheap they are on here, apparently. Anyway, I DO have a dremel, so I will try that. The cabinets will not be getting stripped, however, because I do not have the time for that. This house is getting sold in a few months, so it's not a labor of love at this point. I just stripped a dresser and, though I enjoy that kind of work, I do have a day job that keeps me pretty busy, so when I hire a licensed contractor to re-do my bathroom, I'm just going with what they are doing. If I was going to stay here and make it look perfect, I would strip the cabinets. At this point, I just need a functional, nice looking bathroom and I, personally, have no issue with the cabinets being painted numerous times. I will, however, be sanding down the gloppy parts and getting the painter to fix those. Pennydesign, thanks for all of your advice and help! You have been wonderful!

  • smarxthespot thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I have an old built-in in my 1930's cottage. When I got the house, the hinges looked like yours. I removed the hinges, stripped the paint, and cleaned the metal with Brasso. They look great. I had also considered replacing the hinges, but so happy I kept them.

    smarxthespot thanked smitrovich
  • 8 years ago

    Wow! Yours look amazing! Thanks for sharing!

  • 8 years ago

    I'd go the Dremel and repaint route for the 50 hinges because you are selling the house with old cabinets intact. If the "chrome" spraypaint looks crummy, you can exchange your shiny new chrome knobs for plain black knobs, then use a black spraypaint on the hinges. Or just use an off white spraypaint on the hinges that closely matches your new paint color. YOu may need to prime them with a clear lacquer type spraypaint that will seal the steel hinges to keep them from rusting through a new layer of white or black paint.

    If you were keeping the house, I'd recommend professionally replating the Art Deco hinges.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    If you're going to polish them and really want them to shine, use Simichrome (not Semi...) by Happich, a German company. It's easiest to find in stock in motorcycle shops, but it's available online too. It's amazing, even without a Dremel.

    I'd certainly reuse the old hinges, because the screw holes can be reused. New hinges might require different holes and a bunch of patching and filling.