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Bathroom Decisions

8 years ago

My 1920ish home has one full bath downstairs. The tub/shower enclosure is yellowed and needs to come out. I've decided to replace the tub and have a tile surround with the tiles going to the ceiling. Now that the ball is rolling I want to replace the floor tile as well.



I'd like classic styled tiles that will fit with the house and last for years without looking dated. At first I considered the hexagon penny tiles in black and white for the floor but then thought about how much work it would be to keep clean and I'm not sure I want something that looks so "busy" to the eyes. Marble would be wonderful for both the floor and surround but that's too expensive for my budget.

Is anyone willing to help me make decisions?


The current tub is 29" x 60" so I thought I'd go a little wider. The contractor said there was plenty of room to go to 32" but I feel like it would crowd the toilet.. He assures me it's fine.

Also, there is a piece in me that would like a chandelier in there. Is that crazy?



Comments (28)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The toilet requires a 30” space. If your contractor isn’t allowing for that, then you need to cut him loose now before he messes up the waterproofing for the tub shower.

    You should hire a Kitchen and Bath Designer.

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  • 8 years ago

    hmmm, i don't think it has that much space today.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    So, it’s already below code, and he wants to make the space even smaller? RED FLAG! Is he not planning to get this permitted and inspected? Does he even have an actual license? And insurance? Where did you find him?

  • 8 years ago

    I'm not a fan of chandeliers in bathrooms, and even less in a relatively small bathroom like this. I'm afraid a chandelier would be incongruous, and also make the space feel cramped.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Here's the hex tile I did in my bathroom with white and black subway tile. With today's grouts it should be easier to keep clean. The floor tile is Heritage Tile and the walls are Daltile.

    No to a chandelier and as Sophie said, you need a minimum of 30" width for the toilet for it to be up to code.

  • 8 years ago

    I have original '40s white hex tiles with dark grout in one bathroom. They don't look busy at all, to me it's a classic floor and easy to clean.

  • 8 years ago
    @cpartist what exact wall tile did you use? I’m thinking of using Daltile in the bathroom I’m currently renovating and have some samples but I am having difficulty deciding between them. Your shower looks great!
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Isabella, thank you. I'm not sure exactly which tile but I'll find out. My tile guy got it for us.

  • 8 years ago

    Rittenhouse Square.

  • 8 years ago

    "What we can say is that she definitely has a limited amount of space, and any inches added to the tub will be subtracted from the vanity."

    Hmmm, can't say I understand that logic. Assuming the toilet doesn't move, the width of the tub will have no impact on the width of the vanity (actually pedestal sink in this case), since they are on opposite sides of the toilet. The 30" requirement isn't actually accurate. The requirement is 15" from the centerline of the toilet to any obstruction on either side. So, if you have 20" from the centerline to an obstruction on the left side, that doesn't mean you only need 10" to an obstruction on the right side. You need a minimum of 15" on both sides. And, assuming that those are 12" floor tiles, it appears that there is indeed 15" clearance to the tub. And very likely the necessary 18" clearance required to increase the size of the tub by 3". Why aren't you trusting your contractor, who surely knows the code and is actually there to measure the space available?

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you Sophie. Be aware that I got it from Daltile and not from HD. Supposedly the seconds are sold to HD.

  • 8 years ago

    cpartist-

    I think it's an urban myth that Daltile would send an inferior product in the form of seconds to Home Depot. It makes no sense for a company like Daltile to jeopardize its reputation by doing such a thing. It's just like the stories that have been debunked about major plumbing manufacturers sending special, crappy faucets to Home Depot that look exactly like the more expensive ones at the plumbing supply store.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The cull rate from box store Dal is allowed to be 30% rather than the 5% from the dealer. Same production line. Sorting on the line for different retailers. That goes for Bruce, Cali Bamboo, and whatever other stocked name brand or private label products they sell. I know people in all of those companies. That’s why they can sell their flooring products so low. And volume buying.

    Different reasons for plumbing fixtures. They add a soap dispenser, add a digit to the model number, and the interior parts are not the same. I’ve autopsied those with plumbers.

  • 8 years ago

    If the product IDs on two faucets are identical, the faucets are identical.

  • 8 years ago

    "If the product IDs on two faucets are identical, the faucets are identical."

    That's true. It's also true that they make special, crappy faucets just for the big box stores. They're even listed on the website as "available only at (insert name of big box )". They absolutely are NOT the same quality.

  • 8 years ago

    Agree Catbuilder! I've bought two identical faucets. One from a plumbing house and it was heavy with all metal parts, the other at a big box and it was much lighter and had cheap plastic parts underneath.

    This website was very helpful when I was planning a bathroom: http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/bath.design.rules.htm#.WmOnOTdryMp

  • 8 years ago

    Raye-

    Nobody is saying you can't find cheap faucets at a big box store. The issue is whether you're claiming that you bought two faucets that were supposedly identical and had the same UPC numbers but the cheaper one from the big box store was inferior. I've bought many quality, namebrand items off the shelf and through special order at big box stores and the only thing different was the price compared to other retailers. But if you have an expectation that a $19.95 faucet at Home Depot is going to be the same as one that costs $300 -- at Home Depot or elsewhere -- then you'll be disappointed.

  • 8 years ago

    They were identical, same number, brand, collection, finish, spread and bought less than a month apart. I would never ever buy anything at HD.

  • 8 years ago

    I'd love to see the boxes documenting that....

  • 8 years ago

    Long gone, different house, different state. It's a well known practice so why would you doubt the validity? Do you think because I'm a woman I'm to stupid to read the identical boxes?

  • 8 years ago

    Hmmm, can't say I understand that logic. Assuming the toilet doesn't
    move, the width of the tub will have no impact on the width of the
    vanity

    Here's the logic: The room is X wide. The toilet, regardless of where it's placed, requires 30"; thus, if the OP makes the tub wider, less space is available for the vanity. Moving the toilet or not moving the toilet hasn't been discussed, so I assumed all items could be moved.

    I would never ever buy anything at HD.

    Me neither. I won't go into the insulting way I was treated in that orange box, but suffice it to say that I have not set foot in the place for more than 15 years, and I never miss an opportunity to bad mouth them.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Raye-

    What you consider to be "a well known practice" I consider to be a well known urban myth. The reason I am doubting the assertion is that there have been a number of exhaustive and exhausting threads here on GW about whether big box stores carry cheap quality products from major manufacturers that have identical UPCs to higher grade products, and the answer is "no." Do they carry low end stuff with different UPCs or special lines that are manufactured for the chain?...the answer is "yes." The problem seems to be where people are convinced that they got something at Home Depot of lesser quality but they hadn't looked closely enough to insure that the UPC was the same as on a higher quality model that may have looked the same. You can believe what you want on this subject, and you can believe that your recall about the product numbers on those faucets you bought years ago is correct. That's fine. I just don't buy the argument; you're free to not buy mine.

    But we should be able to disagree without unwarranted sexist remarks, like "I'm a woman I'm to stupid to read the identical boxes." How would I necessarily know you were a woman? How would you necessarily know I'm not?

  • 8 years ago

    "The toilet, regardless of where it's placed, requires 30";"

    NO, that is absolutely false. The toilet requires 15" on EACH side of it. If there is nothing within 15" on one side of it, then yes, it only requires a total of 30". But if, say, there is nothing within 45" on one side of it, it would then need a total space of 60" (45" on the one side + 15" on the other side). Even if it were 10 feet away from a wall, with nothing between it and that wall, it would still require an additional 15", for a total width of 135"! The point is, at a very minimum it requires 30" in width, but it could very well require much more depending on the layout of other fixtures and walls.

  • 8 years ago

    If you want a classic look, Daltile makes a porcelain tile that looks beautifully like carrara marble. For the floors it's available in a matte and polish finish. It's 12x24 and gorgeous. If you use that for the floor and classic white subway tile in the tub surround, you will have that timeless look.

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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    NO, that is absolutely false. The toilet requires 15" on EACH side of it. If there is nothing within 15" on one side of it, then yes, it only requires a total of 30". But if, say, there is nothing within 45" on one side of it, it would then need a total space of 60"

    No, regardless of where you place the toilet, it requires 30" (15" on each side). If you have nothing within 45" on one side, the toilet still NEEDS 15" even if it is allotted more space.

  • 8 years ago

    It's 12x24

    Sorry but 12 x 24 is not classic. It's contemporary. There was no thing as a 12 x 24 floor tile back in the 1920's.

  • 8 years ago

    Wow. Chill guys.