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8 years ago

Hi everyone. I'm new to Houzz and have an issue that i'm hoping to get some advice about. I've worked with a contractor in my area on two projects now. The first was a small bathroom fix and the second a total roof replacement, which was done about 3 weeks ago. My contractor, who I will call Jim, has always been great. We had a good professional relationship and I felt I could trust him with my home. On the day the roofing job was completed and paid for, Jim stated that there was a miscommunication with the manufacturer and he wasn't satisfied with the ridge vent. He told me that he spoke with the manufacturer and after haggling with them re-ordered the piece, then said he'd be back in a week to swap them out. Later that same night Jim drunk texted me and confessed that he was attracted to me. I am a pretty easy going person and politely told him that I was flattered but not interested as he is a married man. He seemed fine with that and I assumed we could just forget about it. I have not heard from him since! I contacted him a week ago and asked him if the piece had come in yet. He said that it had but his kids had the flu and he was sorry but he'd need another week. I said that was fine, hoping that he was telling me the truth. My question is what, if anything, can I do if he doesn't come back to finish the job? Also I have not received and warranty information for the roofing materials from him yet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Comments (21)

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you for your response. I included the text story because I believe that is the reason he is not finishing the job and felt it was relevant. I am a single woman and I guess naive, so maybe my situation might help some other woman out there.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm just telling my story. Not sure why that bothers you so much, might want to look into that.

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you Steve, yes I do have a text about the ridge vent. He did seem like a decent person (professionally anyway) so I'm hoping you are right.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm going to say something that others may find over the top. I apologize if it disturbs anyone. Some may disagree and that's fine; it's a free country and everybody gets to decide what he or she is comfortable with.

    If I were you, I wouldn't allow that man to set foot on my property again. I'd pay him for his services to date and write him off. Then I'd have another roofer check the ridge vent and make sure it's adequate.

    IMO, the text message he sent was unprofessional and completely unacceptable. I don't think it would be going too far to report him to the local BBB.

    delilasam123 thanked DavidR
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    No weekend rendevouz at DavidR's cabin :)

  • 8 years ago

    And stay off my lawn. :)

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you David. I'm hesitant about telling him not to come back because I don't have any of the warranty information for the materials in hand yet. I don't even know what I would need. This whole experience is leaving me feeling really stupid for being so trusting. Lesson learned!

  • 8 years ago

    Its certainly an option for delila to make that decision if she’s uncomfortable with him. I would certainly lean that way if I felt uncomfortable with him. She did mention she’s fairly easy going, and while the contractor acted completely unprofessional, it doesnt sound like he was disrespectful or threatening in any way other than being the obvious dumba$$? Use your gut instincts to move forward. If it were me, I would at least consider closing out this transaction with him, with your warranty repair, and paperwork but have a “friend” or witness be present with you next time you meet with him again if you’re uncomfortable.

    Alternatively, the ridge vents can be installed without him gaining access to the home, and the warranty paperwork can be mailed to you. It wouldnt be out of the question for you to ask him to complete the work that you paid for while you’re at work, and to either leave or mail your documents without having to confront him. Next time you need work done, simply look elsewhere.

    delilasam123 thanked Steve J
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you. I've had him do work for me before when I was at work so I think that might be the better way to go and just have him put the warranty info in my mailbox. If he's feeling awkward (which he should) then he'll probably feel better doing it that way too. I won't make this mistake again.


  • 8 years ago

    The mistakes were on his side, not yours so it's impossible to say this won't happen again unless you never hire a contractor. All you can control are your actions, and getting everything in writing up front which would not have had any bearing on his mistake.

    delilasam123 thanked Steve J
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    She’s already paid him in full... mentioned in first post. She’s just trying to get the ridge vents replaced like he said should be done.

  • 8 years ago

    I think that before doing anything, she should have the venting system evaluated by another more reputable roofer. Maybe the ridge vent is just fine as-is.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Maybe the guy is a bit embarrassed to face you, I'm sure he meant well and take that as a compliment...

    If you can, give him some time if there is no emergency and roof is not leaking, etc and I'm sure he will do what he promised to do if he is licensed and runs a reputable business. If he doesn't return (I'm sure you have a contract and he is binded by it) then you get someone out and evaluate the ridge vent issue.

    You can also call the manufacturer and get a rep out there and have him evaluate the issue also and he will tell you there is a problem or not. Your roof comes with a manufacturer warranty with or without your contractor.

    I think this was his attempt to return and see you again, probably the ridge vent is OK... Obviously, he liked you and should have handled the approach a little differently, maybe send a @---/--- when she least expect it and a dinner invitation :-)

    That being said, people meet like this all the time and in many situations when it does happen, they hook up and if things work out they live happily ever after :-) (assuming there are some ongoing marital issues in his life and maybe separation/divorce is in the works, it happens all the time)

    Good luck


  • 8 years ago

    GN, good point, I agree that this guy might well have been using the vent as an excuse to visit again and indulge his drunken crush.

    But as for the rest of your comment, sorry, I can't agree. I wouldn't give this guy a pass, nor even benefit of the doubt. He did something totally unprofessional and crass. He's a jerk (and that's the family friendly term). I say throw the book at him.

  • 8 years ago

    fwiw, I recently changed car mechanics because all of a sudden the married man who ran the mechanic shop was way way out of line with me.

    IMO if he can't keep his business separate from his carnal instincts

    then he isn't anyone I want to do business with. and this happened

    after he had been my mechanic for several years.

    not necessarily a logical decision, but in the end, I have to

    be comfortable & confident of the person doing the work on my vehicle.

    that all changed very quickly. I lost confidence and comfort. and I feel bad

    for his wife when I see her. (although I'd never tell her what he attempted)


    do what makes you comfortable OP.

    best of luck

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Dave what if the tables reversed... and a customer being single flirts with a contractor, it happens on occasion or two. but its all good and clean... So if that happens should a contractor walk off the job? I doubt anyone would do that. Just saying.

    As I said before he should have handled things differently, but I guess when you like someone or attracted to someone, and you don't go for it, worst thing can happen is a person will say NO, but if you're single and you don't try it, this could have been it, you never know... He could be for her the Prince on the roof wrapped in shiny "flashing caulk" and she could be the princess of his dreams LOL.

  • 8 years ago

    I think it all comes down to perception. Someone being out of line with you, vs someone saying they're attracted to you is at a different level for some people vs another. She said he hasn't said anything since, which is a good thing and hopefully means the guy isn't a creeper. But if she's uncomfortable, move on. What sounds like a un-threatening stupid mistake to me certainly sounds different to some of you, and only you can make that decision for yourself.

    I think asking him to complete the work while she's not home gives the guy a chance for him to complete the work and maybe show he understands she's not interested and he can complete it in a professional manner. If you're not comfortable with that option, then absolutely, find someone else.


    GN, if a customer is the one pursuing the contractor, and they feel uncomfortable, then of course they should walk away. If they are able to curb the customer and feel comfortable completing the job, then that is their decision too. There is not a right answer for every scenario. It depends on all parties involved, and how they react.

    In this circumstance, it involved alcohol, which is certainly not an excuse, but I'm the liquid courage was what enabled him to do this. Any business person should know that attempting to ask out a customer will affect their working relationship if the other person doesn't feel the same way (and that's usually the case). And they should be smart enough to do it NOT while hired by the customer. Even then, you have to be careful how you present yourself. Drunk texting her during a job and telling her you're attracted to her is not a great idea.

  • 8 years ago

    "Maybe the guy is a bit embarrassed to face you, I'm sure he meant well and take that as a compliment..."

    Oh, hell no!

  • 8 years ago

    For the man, these situations usually seem pretty one-dimensional. For the woman, there are whole universes full of factors operating, much more than I can or should write about here. A lot of it isn't easy for us male types to comprehend or even see. In the end it all boils down to a big heaping helping of nope.

    The contractor is at least unprofessional and, in my book, just plain creepy. He has no business pursuing romantic relationships with customers.

    Vice versa is also true. Nothing there is "all good and clean."

    Any time there's a commercial or employment relationship, stuff like this has sexual harassment written all over it. The power dynamics are not symmetrical.

    What I posted above is pretty much what I would do if I were a woman in this situation. And did I mention nope?

    PS: Steve makes good points, but I disagree that alcohol is "liquid courage." More like "hold my beer."

  • 8 years ago

    So many good responses, thanks everyone! I have to say that while what he did was, in my opinion, very unprofessional and quite frankly gross since he's engaged, I was willing to pretend like it didn't happen and continue with the job because everyone makes mistakes. But now I can't help but be annoyed by the whole thing because he's blowing me off. The reason doesn't matter at this point (embarrassed, whatever). AND- I went on his Facebook page and he posted a new business ad using my review from the first job he did for me! I've found another contractor who's willing to come take a look at it for me if I need him too. I'm gonna give it another week, then contact him and request that he send whatever warranty info I need in the mail and bid him farewell!