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Planned & Impulse buys and Spring stuff

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Hi there!

Al and I just came home from running errands in town...with 3 roses. Went in Tractor Supply for dog food and they were in the front entry. $7.50 each. We were toast. We picked up Oklahoma, Angel Face and Mississippi Rainbow. They looked pretty healthy to me. I've read a bit about Oklahoma and Angel Face. Anybody have any advice or pictures of growth habits and blooms on these three? Here's a picture:



There's a waxy film on the canes. Do I need to clean that off??




Al ordered 2 two quart Disneyland roses from J&P last week. We bought a BIG blue pot for them today. The pot is 24"w x 20"h and I'm estimating it at just under 40 gallons. I think it should be large enough for both roses? Al is a FL Gator fan and I think the blue pot and orangey roses could be a new favorite for him. :-)

I placed an order with David Austin a few weeks back. That order is Lady Emma Hamilton and Boscobel bare roots, Lady of Shalott 2qt, and Young Lycidias own root. I'm going to try my hand at bare roots; I have only tried own root pots or bands so far. A little scared.

I'm playing with the idea of ordering a few others: Fragrant Plum and Violet's Pride from Northlands, and English Perfume and Darcey Bussell from Roses Unlimited.

Things have warmed up nicely here, but I'm a little hesitant to do too much before our average last freeze date in mid March. Our high temps are forecast to stay in the 60s and low 70s through the beginning of March. Should I go ahead and dig in??

Oh! And I thiiiink we have the woodrats in hand? Our nursery recommended something called Plantskydd. It's safe for dogs and kids. That combined with the other assorted preventatives seems to be keeping the critters at bay.

Thanks for your encouragement and advice! :-)

Shannon

Comments (25)

  • 8 years ago

    I love impulse plant shopping! Angel Face was the first rose I bought-so it is special to me. Mine is a light lavender and has a slight citrus scent.

    I got Violet's Pride from Home Depot.It has been stunning. But I have never met a purple/lavender rose I didn't like.

    I leave the wax on my bare roots.The new growth doesn't seem affected by it. Eventually,the weather wears it off.

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    Shannon - I get roses from tractor supply often too as an impulse buy, they all come with wax on the canes to help retain moisture (allegedly). It’s never hurt my roses and wears off eventually. I think I’m very hot climates it can seal in too much heat but I think you should be ok in zone 7. :) I can’t wait til the TS near my house gets their roses in. I’m sure I’ll be leaving with a whole truckload lol

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked Kali C
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    A nice haul, Shannon! I only grow Angel Face, it’s a little thing, so definitely front of the border. I had an impulse buy of my own...I got Rosie the Riveter, Chicago Peace, and Lady in Red. They were from Weeks , packaged much like yours...waxed canes, peat pots, plastic wrap. I’ve never had issues with roses sold like that, so long as it was early season and the roses were fresh. I always remove and rip up the peat pot into bits (not sure if you have to, but it just seems so dense and water repellent).

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  • 8 years ago

    Good point Ben, I forgot to mention that. I find that when I planted the roses with the peat pots they die, when I completely remove the peat pot they flourish! I think they hold in too much moisture and take too long to decompose, especially in cooler zones

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked Kali C
  • 8 years ago

    Impulse buy of Oklahoma, packaged exactly like yours. Gigi from where I work and Figi, emd of season at Walmart.

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 8 years ago

    Probably my biggest Impulse purchase would be solar lights. I have way more than a person needs but they sure Are pretty at night

  • 8 years ago

    Hmmm... never heard of MISSISSIPPI RAINBOW. Who is the supplier of these peat potted roses?


  • 8 years ago

    Mine was Weeks

  • 8 years ago

    Angle face has stayed small for me also. right now mine in its 4th or 5th season is close to 4ft.

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  • 8 years ago

    Diane, your pictures of YL are what inspired my spring purchase. His new home is all ready for him. I can' wait. I hope mine has that same glorious color.

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    Angel face isn't staying that small for me. YL is growing slowly though.

    Diane, how big does YL get for you?

  • 8 years ago

    I’m with you Kristine! I bought a bunch of solar lights for around the pool. Al came home and was like something’s different out here.

    Hm hm hm hm hm. Really hon? Wow. ;-)

    LOL

  • 8 years ago

    I am not sure Beth? There really isn’t a whole lot on HMF about Mississippi Rainbow. I did a google search for Mississippi Rainbow and of course got a LOT of crazy things.

    The packaging on these 3 says they’re from Tyler, Texas. But I’m thinking a lot of our area store roses probably come from Tyler?

  • 8 years ago

    Hi Sultry, I'll bet one reason Angel Face is growing bigger for you is lack of cane winter kill like we have here occurring in those sensitive roses. The vast majority of roses do just fine during winter here, and many of those grow huge, but not Angel Face. She wasn't planted deeply enough because I encountered a layer of caliche (hardpan), and should have planted her in another spot. So poor Angel Face was planted on top of the caliche, and she has paid for it ever since. I should still move her, I guess, but she is at least six years old--and I'm lazy. I retract what I said about AF being a small rose--that would be in specific conditions only.....I think YL is about 5 X4+ feet. I need to go out and have a good look at him.

    Kristine, I hope your YL is a fantastic success, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's big and beautiful, given the wonderful rose growing area you live in, and your skills and loving care you give your roses.

    Diane

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
  • 8 years ago

    Hey Nanadoll! :-)

    Oh my!! Your roses are such an inspiration. It makes my heart happy to just see the pictures of your beauties. :-) I don't know if I have seen any of those photos before, but I certainly neeeever mind seeing them again! lol I actually went back and looked at them twice while we were running around in town earlier. ;-) Showed them to Al and he said "We are getting those, right??"

    It so good to hear that Angel Face tends to stay on the smaller side. At the rate we are going we probably should try to stay with smallish roses. I think we are going to have quite the pot ghetto this year, unless I buy/rent one of those gas powered post hole thingys (that can dig through rock).

    Ok. Major yipes! I just read the bit about Young Lycidas getting 5'x4+'. I'm having a minor attack... and I thought I'd planned that DA order out so well. :facepalm: Just mentioned the size of yours to my flower snob and he said "You're the one that has to figure out where to plant them." -_- LOL Well at least he isn't traveling as much with work now and I can get him to help me dig holes, build beds, and haul gigantic pots home. heh heh heh

    Shannon :-)

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks do much, Shannon. I think you and your husband are inspiring me with your enthusiasm. I love the way you hub is part of the decision making on the roses and, at least, has some good opinions about them. Most men I know don't have much to say about roses unless it's negative (they grab me when I mow the edge of the yard).....As as far as Young Lycidas is concerned, I think your rose, like mine, will be able to fit into smaller spaces than you think. This rose has such flexible canes that lightly touch or hug his neighbors--no poking or shoving like some. He doesn't seem to want to take over at all. He's a slow grower, too, so you'll have lots of time to do some rose adjustments. Note that even sultry in Florida says YL is a slow grower for her. Do you have lots and lots of holes to dig? Diane

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
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    Oh phew! Thanks Diane. :-) That makes me feel so much better about my options for placing Young Lycidas.

    Holes to dig? Not many? I think?? So far? Ugh. We are kinda a mess. LOL Some things are going in holes and some in big pots.

    Let's see... I have 4 DA roses on order to figure out where to place. Add to that the 3 we picked up at Tractor Supply yesterday. Then there are 6 babies that have wintered in our little greenhouse, and I kind of have an idea where I'd like to put these guys. Then there's the two Disneylands Al bought that are going in this pretty blue pot.

    Hoooowever, I also have a birthday gift card to Heirloom and I'd really like to do a Roses Unlimited and maybe a Northlands order. I'm thinking that will be another 10 max?

    so. 'Shannon math' (note that IS an oxymoron) works that out to:

    We probably have about 18 holes to dig.

    ;-) Shannon

  • 8 years ago

    oooh. That's a lot of holes, but if things get rough, you can pot up a few more than you planned on. Big pots aren't cheap, though, and would you move them into the garage? Diane

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    I'm trying to be positive about it. We are starting earlier this year, there's less overall to do out back, and Al is home at least on the Fri-Sun each weekend. It's so wild to think a year ago (2/20/17) it looked like this:

    We might move more pots into the greenhouse next winter. I don't know. This year we sheltered in the greenhouse the 6 babies i mentioned, and our big pots with the Koko Loco, Hot Cocoa, Fragrant Hour and Oakington Ruby. Those 4 big pots are the heavy plastic pots and slightly smaller than the new blue one. We rolled them in with a furniture dolly. Going forward I'm hoping most of the new stuff will be fine in pots left in the yard. I picked up the plastic pots from Lowes for much less $$. I think I may scrounge around this year for other interesting things to use as pots like our old wheelbarrow.

    Everything else in the yard got a good layer of shredded leaves. It seems to have sheltered them well? I've been worried about getting everybody through their first winter, but I think we've done ok. Started pulling the shredded leaves back today. Looking good so far except for the woodrat damage.

    Shannon :-)

  • 8 years ago

    Shannon, your place is going to be phenomenal. What a difference a year makes huh.

    I really like the large blue pot. I cant wait to see pictures of it planted


    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 8 years ago

    I haven't grown Disneyland, but I'd suggest that one rose per large pot is probably going to result in a healthier rose than putting two in the same pot, even with a large pot. I've got a lot of large pots with roses in them, and it is all that I can do to keep them happy with one rose per pot! But you may have better luck than I do, and Disneyland might be uniquely suited to such an arrangement. Another idea might be to get a second, matching pot, and place the two on either side of a walkway.

    Your garden sounds like it is going to be fabulous, with all of these wonderful roses. Please do post pictures when everything is blooming!

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked K S
  • 8 years ago

    Shannon, your garden and the plans you have for it sound amazing! I’m only mildly envious ;) I hope to see photos on the forums soon and live vicariously through you!

    Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a thanked Kali C
  • 8 years ago

    This post inspired me to drive to a 3rd Tractor Supply and I bought two Mississippi Rainbows (and a Paul Neyron and a Gold Cup).There is so little info on the net about Mississippi Rainbow.I'm excited see it grow and bloom.

  • 8 years ago

    Yay Kaleidoscope! :-) It will be fun to see our blooms and growth.

    I got quite the chuckle when I did a plain google search for "Mississippi Rainbow rose". Lots of photoshopped rainbow roses. lol

    I'm hoping for a Peace-like rose that smells nice. :-)