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wall cabinets or no wall cabinets?

7 years ago
We are looking into renovating the kitchen and trying to design a layout of it.

1. Should we put a wall cabinet on both side of the hood (please see the first image.)?

2. Or should we not put a wall cabinet on both side of the hood (please see the second image)?

We are afraid that it might look too crowded with the cabinets on both side of the hood as we want to install wood open shelves on both sides of the window. But at the same time, we feel like wasting possible storage space if we don't install them.

Thank you in advance for your opinions!

Comments (20)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    How big is this room? Everything is just too crowded on that wall--the whole room needs a more considered layout.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I agree there seems to be a lot of wasted space on the left in the bottom drawing . Maybe an actual detailed floor plan would help us visualize the space

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Agreed overall layout looks like there’s room for improvement but of the two options I’d say definitely no uppers. Do a nice tile or accent paint.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    You’re getting lost in the trees and ignoring the forest.

    Start over completely with that layout. Ditch all previous ideas. It’s that bad.

  • 7 years ago

    Is that a six burner range? With so little counter space, I'd suggest ditching the tall cabinets, and use uppers. Knowing nothing about the kitchen, except that the wall is 166" long, here's a plan. It might need to be tweaked, depending on the exact location and width of the window.


  • 7 years ago

    You really need a CKD. This layout is awful.

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you all so much for your opinions and ideas, even a layout! I didn't even know that there were 18" dish washers available. We will definitely go with no upper cabinets next to the hood. We thought installing those tall cabinets would help as we wanted to increase storage space and also hide a microwave and toaster oven.

    Our kitchen is very small....(Please see attached pictures of our current kitchen). I would appreciate your any suggestions/ideas to improve the layout.
  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    . Get your sink and dishwasher onto the "island", the fridge onto that current sink wall.:..........lose that window over the current sink, if you need to remain in this footprint.

    You're obviously looking for storage , the end of your island is load bearing......yes?

    But the window on the current sink wall needs to be bye bye. And a GE CAFE 30 inch gas range is all a kitchen this size really demands, but yes, you can fit 36.. f you need a second oven, put it with micro at left. Actually make that right. Sorry, this was hasty, if you want pantry style fridge, reverse with mico/built in at left.....and it should be COUNTER DEPTH, with panel enclosure. But that sink window is killing you. And there is plenty of other window............You have 168...oh sorry 166...whatever.... adjust!!! the drawer base etc. You get the idea. I haven't had enough coffee

    Doing that, would give your wall a version of below.........,fridge far left

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  • 7 years ago
    @ Jan Moyer. Thank you for the ideas along with the layout! This looks very nice and helps us so much on planning. The only thing is that we were hoping to keep the window over the sink... Any other options that you could think of with the window in the same spot? We don't mind getting rid of those walls, the one on the left of the window over the sink and the other one on the right of the island. We appreciate your help!
  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Look, We can't read your first floor plan well. Second, for me and jmho? I don't like a sink/window and a range/hood on the same wall. They are competing focal points, it's a personal thing I just hate it, If i were going to do that, lose the left knee wall and put a down draft cook on the island, which I also hate. Your whole house is windows......plenty of folks have a sink on an island : ) In new build it is common as grass out the window .

    Your best bet before a big spend is an onsite KD in your home

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you for all your time and help!
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    You'll be amazed at how much more storage you get from all-drawer base cabinets compared to what you have now. You don't need those tall cabinets flanking the sink and range.

    I really like the existing locations of your fridge, range and sink. You have continuous counter between sink and range so you don't drip drip drip across the aisle (I had that with a 5' aisle in my last house and hated it) and you have a nice stretch of counter seating that's not going to get splashed by a sink.

  • 7 years ago

    You really need a kitchen designer before you start spending money. The layout you initially provided should not be considered. For a galley kitchen like that, you are going to have to lose the window over the sink which will give you the opportunity to make that your focal wall with the stove and hood on it and upper cabinetry (because the other wall looks like it's open at the top (?)) which means the other wall would have to have the sink on it. Then I would get rid of the big pantry at the end of the open wall and move the refrigerator down to the end so you can have a long counter top with your sink and then room for open shelving on the open wall above.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Most Kitchen Showrooms do a complimentary design for you in order to present you with pricing. I recommend going in one nearest you and discussing your needs for a functional kitchen that may be different from what you are working with now and let them get creative. Communicate that you have been playing with a few ideas but would love some guidance, this will allow you to build a more solid budget for the materials as well! Depending on the cabinet line you go with many different cabinet vendors offer different storage and organization mechanisms, typically the European ones have the most interesting solutions ( i've worked with many American brands and now i work heavily with UK and German brands because they better serve my clients needs creatively).

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you for your valuable comments and suggestions. Every single thing makes scene. We have started looking for kitchen designers locally.
  • 7 years ago

    I apologize if this was already mentioned, but... have you considered extending the wall behind the fridge to close up the kitchen entrance from the stairs? You can turn that area into a pantry?

  • 7 years ago
    Thanks for looking into it! We will take it into consideration.
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Do you prefer fad or practicality?

    People that clean their own kitchens and that fry food usually don't actually like the exposed hood/duct look for very long -- it's a space wasting fad that should pass ... hopefully soon.

    Be practical: Put cabinets above the stove with a hood vent beneath the cabinets and the vent pipe, if there is one, hidden inside the cabinets.

    Open shelving is also a fad that becomes a chore for those cleaning their own kitchen -- especially if they're anywhere near the stove. It's another fad I hope disappears soon, along with those sloppy-dragging-the-floor drapes.

    How tall are you? If you're trying to reach up above a countertop, you'll likely only be able to reach the bottom shelf without a step stool or step ladder. Do yourself a favor and try reaching up over your current countertop at the window and see how far up you can reach.

    Is this your forever kitchen -- the one you hope to have for years to come? On days when my shoulder joints are stiff and reaching up is uncomfortable, I literally must stand on the bottom shelf of my base cabinets to reach the top shelf of my overhead cabinets -- and they extend farther out than most overhead cabinet shelves. Even on a good day, I cannot reach anything behind the jars of pasta, etc., that are on the front edge of that shelf without a step stool or step ladder.

    Also, do keep a window above the sink, even if it means relocating items in your kitchen to do so.

    As you plan your kitchen, especially if you don't have a pantry, don't forget to include vertical drawers -- the shelves in them can be shallow and close together for cans of food or they can be more shallow and closer together for spices. They can also be considerably wider with more space between for storing countertop appliances.

    Vertical drawers are frequently found beside refrigerators and/or fill the odd half foot or so at the end of a row of cabinets near a wall for symmetry -- they can make up the space that is left after the rest of the cabinet doors are made the same width.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/779052435514464015/

  • 7 years ago
    @suezbell. Thank you for your advice. I agree with you on a tall cabinet with drawers in it. It is a must item on my list as my current pantry is skinny and deep which drives me crazy every time I take something out of it or even just looking at it.