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Have you reach your ultimate collection?

8 years ago

How many have you in your collection? What are your most priced ones, not necessarily in taste but also accomplishment in looks, sort like" i wish all my tree's looks like this one".

I have a Xie Shan. Dream navel. Page, a few coming shortly.

Xie Shan.

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  • 8 years ago

    Had my first Gold Nugget today (from the grocery store). Yeah, it was VERY good.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm contemplating an Oroblanco but I've never been a grapefruit fan but my kids love them.

  • 8 years ago

    Nick, how about a Valentene Pomelo?

  • 8 years ago

    Nope! Not even close. I need 20 more trees haha

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    the valentene pomelo sounds great except for one thing which I avoid like the plague- seeds. its the one reason why I don't have a page tree.

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you jinnilea fot the information on keraji. It seems to be very hardy. Will you be able to plant it inground? It would be great!

  • 8 years ago

    Bob, I have 7 varieties of citrus ( can't have more due to shortage of space), but will make exception for Shiranui. I wish all my trees looked like my lime tree :)

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    You be happy when they get bigger and filled with big globs. More does't means better.

    This is my ultimate collection:

    Page, Xie Shan(2), Red Navel, Dream Navel, Meyer(2) Santa Teresa(2), Valentine Pomelo,(2) Juanita, Myagawa,

    Newly grafted this Januari:

    Lee nova, Shasta Gold, Yosemite Gold, Shasta Gold, Tahoe Gold, Thong Dee pomelo. Aii in multiples.

    Do i need more. No, no, no . Need a shrink!!!


  • 8 years ago

    My ultimate collection won't be reached until I can successfully over-winter a lemon tree. I got a Meyer through last winter but it wasn't in any condition to fruit. Increasing the light this winter seemed to be the wrong move. Anyway, I'll continue to experiment and hopefully find the right mix of temps and light one of these winters.


    My current collection: 1 Yuzu, which looks way better now than it did a year ago and even flowered at some point over the winter on just one branch; and 1 Rangpur, which doesn't look great but has definitely looked worse in the past.

    I ordered a lot from Harris and FWG for this year but am shifting primarily to trees that can (mostly) be outside year-round in my 8b climate.

    Outside Trees: Xie Shan Satsuma on Trifoliate, Sudachi on C-35, and Calamondin on Kinkoji.

    Inside Trees: Bearss Lemon on Sour Orange, Harvey Lemon on Trifoliate, and Seville Sour Orange on Kinkoji. I don't intend to keep both lemons but am instead being realistic about their chances of survival next winter and I wanted to compare a tree on trifoliate to a tree on sour. I also have some lemon and key lime seedlings I'm just using for science experiments.

    Ideal for me given current space constraints would be: Yuzu, Sudachi, Calamondin, Sour Orange, Key Lime, Xie Shan, a Tangelo (either the mysterious white tangelo Harris is carrying or a Sugar Belle), a Pomelo, and a Lemon (or two!).

  • 8 years ago

    Hahaha I would need a lot more space to get my ultimate collection. There are so many unique citrus and fruit trees I would love to have if I had unlimited space.

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    Cory, good job on your trees with the lights and all...I see all that fruit. Are you going to pick them soon? What will you use them for?

    I'll bet you built that shelf right in front of that window. If so great job. Will you be using that space for 'more' trees? ha

    Bob, I have been thinking, we could all use a shrink! lol

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    I need one for sure I stopped by costco to buy some nuts and left with a flavor king pluot tree(was hoping for a nice citrus) and no nuts lol....................

  • 8 years ago

    Nick, that's a riot!lol

    I'm going to the garden center this weekend and I promised myself to stay away from the citrus room with over 100 varieties...lol

  • 8 years ago
    myermike that pic was taken in Jan I think, I made Meyer lemon bars. Used the juice for a few things as well. the shelf yes I built specifically for my citrus, it's a temporary solution I'm planning on having a Florida room built for my trees. This window in my kitchen is the only decent south facing in window in my house. And lastly the lights are 2 daylight spectrum led strips for a shop or garage.
  • 8 years ago

    Cory, first off it's nice to have you in board and I love how you are using your imagination for even more of these awesome creatures...I hope it all works out. I hear you about the only south facing window thing. I know a nice glass roof would be awesome. Please keep us updated on your trees and share more often.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm always reading about all the different varieties everyone has and lusting after new trees. I love seeing everyone's pictures and researching different varieties, but for me I want to keep my collection to things I'll use and truing enjoy eating.

    I currently have:

    Meyer

    ST

    NZL

    Variegated Eureka

    Persian Lime

    Key Lime

    Tango

    Miho Wase Satsuma


    I could easily get another 5-8 lemons trees (Meyer , Bearss 2x, Lisbon, Eureka, NZL). My goal is to extend the harvest to have lemons ready to eat for as many months of the year as possible and freeze the extra. I'm hoping my two limes trees will supply enough limes, I don't use nearly as many. I'd also like at least another 5 mandarins and I'm always going back and forth on varieties. Probably a GN and Shiranui, and something that ripens around December. Maybe the xie shan, since everyone seems to sing it's praises. I've never seen one for sale, though. Or a sugarbell, yosemite gold, nules, lee x nova? Someone please just decide for me! Plus, non-citrus such as olive, mulberries, blueberries and many more once I get a house.


    My fear is that they'll become to much to care for. Some times the trees and plants I have now start to feel like a chore to take care of and I don't want that. It's easier in summer, of course. Hopefully, in a few years I'll have a house with a heated sunroom and I won't have to worry so much in winter. I'll take as many as I can adequately care for. I don't know how people like Laura do it with all those trees to take care of. I spent 2-3 hours every weekend, watering and 'checking in'.


    Nick - What is the Yosemite Gold like? When are they ripe? I was contemplating this one. Anyone else have one?


    Amy - What are Sugarbelles like? Seedy? Easy to peel? When are they ripe? What about your nules? I haven't seen anyone else mention then, but they sound good. I'd love to get my hand on an Orri or Ruby tango! Is it even possible?


    Bob - Someone, probably you has mentioned great things about the lee x nova. What is it like? When is it ripe? Is this something to consider for a container grower? When is the xie shan ripe and is it appropriate for containers?


    PacNorWreck - How long have you had your Bearss and Harvey lemons? What are the differences?

  • 8 years ago

    Alanna, i don't know nothing a bout the varieties i grafted in January other than reading a lot of those. There are very knowledgeable citrus people on different forums, especial the guys from California. They have access to stuff that is not available to me but somehow i got what i want.

    The top picture is a Xie Shan in a container(Harris Nurseries) yes, go for it . The problem with this tree, it fruit every other year because it want to overbear, just look at that tree, a million flowers.

  • 8 years ago

    Hi Alanna,

    this hobby is so so addictive! There is so many varieties available and they all have something special.

    Ok about Sugar Belle: it’s a cross between minneola and clementine. Great sweetness balance with good acidity. It’s supposed to be ready by december, earlier than minneola. It also has 40% more vitamin c than minneola. If you like minneola you will probably love SugarBelle! If you live in area affected by hlb, this variety should be tolerant to greening. I bought it last year from floraexotica which got it from harris. I preorder another one this year from brugmansia-quebec wich will get it from briteleaf.

    I just got my nules clementine last fall so there is not much I can say about it right now. It’s just seating by my window right now doing nothing.

    Alanna, I must confess that I have the habit to crush the fallen leaves from my trees just to smell the scents. The best scent is from my shiranui! Very very intense! If the leaves smell that amazing imagine the fruits!!

    I bought some regular Orri mandarin (label said orri and they are not orti jaffa) from an asian supermarket and they were really really good. It’s one of my top mandarin. Very big, firm but with a lot of juice and very sweet. I did a bit of research and the information is so confusing. Some said that is a cross between temple and dancy. Some said is a seedless ortanique. What Iknow for sure is that it’s a patented variety.

    For ruby tango, it’s a cross between a blood orange and tango. Can you imagine how beautiful the fruits can be? In my research, I found a few european nurseries which carry it but no one in North America.

  • 8 years ago

    Amy - I also enjoy smelling the leaves. I always rip them up and sniff, then I let my dog sniff. She doesn’t enjoy them as much. I think the lime leaves smell exactly like lime fruity pebbles! To me, my orange leaves smell like peppers...it’s really weird.

    I’ve seen ruby tangos and they were beautiful and big too. Ive never had an Orri, but from what I read, they sounded fantastic and highly regulated.

    I’m sure there will always be new varieties I want, but I feel the need to get started right NOW!, to give new trees time to fruit. So I keep trying to decide on new mandarins. Too many choices...

  • 8 years ago

    Bob - I didn’t see Xie Shan on the Harris website. Maybe I missed it or they don’t have it right now? Your tree is beautiful.

    Let us know how the new ones do. The reviews I need here are most helpful in deciding what I want.

  • 8 years ago

    Alanna. Harris had a great selection prior to the hurricane. I don't know if that is why they don't have a lot right now or not. Xie Shan was on my list and they had a good price on them. Hopefully they will get their stock back up.

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    Harris often has things available that aren’t on the website - you just have to give Ruth a call. That’s how I got a Xie Shan this year.

    I’m afraid I can’t say much about Harvey and Bearss yet - they arrive next month from Harris! Harvey is supposed to be a grocery store lemon, just more hardy than Eureka or Lisbon (especially on trifoliate). Bearss is supposed to be a very vigorous variety with large fruit and lots of oil in the rind - it was selected in Florida but was said to resemble a Sicilian lemon that was grown around that time, handling the heat and humidity of Florida better than Eureka.


    Quick Edit: For Amy or anyone else that's had a Sugar Belle - does it still taste like a tangelo? I love Minneolas because you can definitely taste the grapefruit heritage; not sure if I'd grow Sugar Belle if it was just another sweet mandarin.

  • 8 years ago

    I currently only have a few:

    ST

    Genoa

    Unknown Lemon

    I have several on my “need” list: Tarocco, femminello siracusano, NZL, Valencia, for now.

    I’m open to other lemon types like the Bearss and Villafranca, but I definitely need to expand my overwinter area first lol.

  • 8 years ago

    Hi PacNorWreck,

    I never taste the SugarBelle myself because I just got it last fall but from several articles, I understand that it’s sweet-tart fruit with a tangy punch!

    Here is one of the article:

    http://news.ufl.edu/archive/2009/10/uf-releases-first-citrus-cultivar-sugar-belle-packs-a-tasty-punch.html

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    Alanna I haven't tasted a yosemite yet but I will this season. I stopped by my local nursery this moring for pine bark fines and strawberry plants and couldn't resist adding an Oroblanco Tree to my collection. She is a beauty and will give me some nice fruit this fall. I will be transplanting it into a larger container soon.

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    I think we may be maxed out, but you never know. We have 13 - Eureka Lemon, Valencia Orange, Navel Orange, Honey Mandarin, Satsuma Mandarin, Algerian Tangerine, Calmoundin, Meiwa Kumquat, Bearss Lime, Key Lime, Sweet Lime, Persian Lime, Kaffir Lime. We have been unsuccessful growing Meyers lemon and a grapefruit. We prize the honey mandarin, but the eureka lemon and the key lime are the most productive.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm working on being "done" with 1/5 acre.

    2 original 80 year old Washington Navels

    2 original 60 years old Valencia

    Planted when they built houses on commerical grove 45 years ago:

    Pink Blush Grapefruit

    Minneola Tangelo

    Unknown Lemon

    Planted by me during the last 20 years:

    Cara Cara Navel

    2x Tarocco Blood

    Moro Blood

    Smith Valenica Blood

    2x Sanguinelli Blood

    Oro Blanco Grapefruit

    Melogold Grapefruit

    Rio Red Grapefuit

    4x Cocktail Grapefruit

    Chandler Pomello

    Eureka Lemon

    Santa Teresa Lemon

    2x USDA 88-2

    Valentine Pomello

    3x Bearss Lime

    3x Gold Nugget Mandarin

    2x Owari Satsuma

    2x Tango Mandarin

    2x Pixie Mandarin

    Meiwa Kumquat

    Nagami Kumquat

    4x Kishu Mini

    Ortanique Tangor

    2x Thornless Mexican Lime

    2x Pink Lemonade Lemon

    3x Meyer Lemon

    4x Page Mandarin

    2x Pomona Sweet Lemo (Limetta)

    Wekiwa Tangelo

    Kyomi Tangoe

    Also:

    Fuerte, Haas, Lamb Haas, Sir Prize, Reed Avolcado.

    Wonderful Pomegranate







  • 8 years ago

    Wow Greg, amazing collection and fit into 1/5 acre... double amazing!!!

  • 8 years ago

    Amazing collection of trees, Greg! Wow! Such a wonderful variety. Nice trees, Lynda!

  • 8 years ago

    I reduced the size of the 4 ancient trees from their original 20-25' diameter to 12-14' diameter and brought them down gradually to 10-12' high. I intend to do the same with the Minneola. I'm getting too old to want to be on ladders and the goal is variety not quantity.

    The Kishus, Pixies, and Kumquats are in pots in the front yard for the neighborhood kids.

    The Meyers, Gold Nugget, and Bearss are espaliered along a side wall. Bearss or Meyers in the ground and left to grow will bury you in fruit.

    The 1/5 acre is the area behind my pool that was the original grove. I have the four different varieties of Bloods on 9' Centers between the two old Valencias that are 40' apart.

    Here's a pic of where I was planning the spacing of the espaliered trees for the east side yard. I dug down to find the original ground level so that the wall is its intended 5.5' tall but still wanting to gain some privacy as the houses are only 20' apart on the sides. The plastic is protection as that was just before a predicted huge rainstorm:

  • 8 years ago

    Very cool Greg. Thanks for sharing. We have good friends in Upland off Euclid and when visiting, I am always pleasantly surprised by all the citrus I see growing. We are at a point of producing too much, and like you we would prefer variety over abundance. We may slowly look to reduce the size of some of our bigger trees to allow for that.

  • 8 years ago

    Lynda that is what I'm doing in my small yard I have 32 fruit trees taking up a 1000 sf of space in my backyard. Every tree is a different variety.

  • 8 years ago

    Gregg, I would love to do that with Citrus Trees. What a very fine job and very cool. And WOW. quite the list!

  • 8 years ago

    Container growing here (though I'm experimenting with an in-ground Owari satsuma soon), so the collection is reaching capacity. I've also got a Tango, sweet lime, and some key lime seedlings. I've got a pummelo coming sometime this spring, and a Santa Teresa hopefully coming next week. I also added a couple avocados, a mango, and coffee trees seedlings recently. Not sure which is my favorite, but my oldest and most babied is my ~14 year old Meyer. I'd like to add a NZ Lemonade if I can find one. And then whatever I come across locally that I can't resist. :)

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    I really need to stop now. Today I ordered a 3gal New Zealand Lemonade, in addition to the Santa Teresa and Tahitian Pummelo coming soon. I also got some ripe calamondins from my neighbor, so I can plant the seeds. I really think I should stop there for a while...unless I plant a yuzu in my yard...

  • 8 years ago

    lucky_cloud, where did you find a 3 gal New Zealand lemonade?

  • 8 years ago

    Stan McKenzie. Not sure if he has any left..I wrote to ask if he had any and he said he thought he might have one. I didn't ask how many he found though!

  • 8 years ago

    This winter I signed up at OGW for a spring 2018 order for a 1 or 2 gallon Bergamot, which has been on backorder for a while. I was browsing their website a week ago and noticed they just got the 1 gallon back in stock, so I quickly placed my order. I did not receive an email alert from them, but was told that they would have a few back in stock soon. They had only six in stock..So I am over the moon with joy after waiting for almost 2 years for one. They will ship out this spring.

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    I just couldn't help myself when I thought in 2018 I was done with citrus especially mandarins. I'm pretty sure my mandarin collection is complete. But please let me know if there is a must have that I'm missing. Thanks ! :)

    Mandarins

    Miyagawa wase satsuma

    Okitsu wase satsuma

    Owari satsuma

    Xie Shan

    Shiranui

    Lee x Nova

    Kishu

    Honey

    Page

    Pixie

    Tango

    Gold Nugget

    Tahoe Gold

    Shasta Gold

    Yosemite Gold


    Oranges

    Cara Cara

    Moro

    Washington Navel


    Lemons

    Variegated Eureka

    Libsom

    Meyer


    Bearss Lime


  • 6 years ago

    Nick, you are not even close being done, maybe 5 more.

  • 6 years ago

    Nick not to enable lol but I love my kiyomi tangor! :) not much info out there on it but it’s one of my favourites!

  • 6 years ago

    3 New Zealand lemonade, 5 Meiwa kumquat, 1 valentine pomelo, 2 Fukushu kumquat.

  • 6 years ago

    I might try grafting an all in one satsuma and an all in one gold series cocktail tree.

  • 6 years ago

    If they are equal in growing habits you are ok. Weaker ones might not survive.

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    Currently I have (in various stages of development -- some are new grafts):


    MANDARINS AND MANDARIN HYBRIDS:

    Armstrong Satsuma (x3) - fruiting

    Xie Shan Satsuma - fruiting

    Owari Satsuma - fruiting

    'Shasta Gold' mandarin

    Seedless Kishu mandarin (x 2)

    W. Murcott Afourer mandarin (presumed -- could possibly be Tango)

    Keraji mandarin

    Sugar Belle hybrid

    Shiranui hybrid - fruiting

    Clementine x Yuzu mandarin - fruiting

    Indio Mandarinquat (x 3)

    Pixie mandarin (bud graft that is still green but has not pushed yet!)


    ORANGE:

    Panzarella orange


    POMMELO OR POMMELO HYBRIDS:

    Oroblanco hybrid - fruiting


    LIME, LEMON OR LEMON HYBRIDS:

    Key lime - fruiting

    Meyer lemon - fruiting


    PONCIRUS TRIFOLIATA HYBRIDS:

    Citrandarin (Poncirus trifoliata x mandarin) in ground - fruiting

    Citrumelo (in ground and used for rootstock) - fruiting

    Tai-tri (Taiwanica x P. trifoliata) in ground and used for rootstock.


    SMALL SEEDLINGS:

    Sweet lemon, Mandarinquat, Sour orange.


    RECENT GRAFTS (NOT SURE IF SUCCESSFUL):

    Washington Navel


    So yeah, I'm done. No more until I can get fruit from all these and evaluate. Unless I can find a good lemon! LOL!

  • 6 years ago

    Nice collection Dave !

  • 6 years ago

    NO!

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    So what other varieties are you looking for Mike

  • 6 years ago

    I guess I am not done either. Since I posted two years ago, we have added a Eureka Lemon, Meyer Lemon, Pixie Mandarin, Key Lime and a Fukushu Kumquat. They are all in large pots getting ready to be transferred to our other home. We are considering moving there after we retire, and realize that mature fruit trees are a requirement for us to move.