Changes to the suggested layout?

8 years ago

last modified: 8 years ago

Many months ago, when I thought the plans were finished - wishful thinking :-( Buehl kindly designed some layouts for my kitchen. Now that the plans are with the builder and county for permitting I need to look at the KD again.

Here is the the original plan. The pantry and laundry were the 2 doors on the right. The door on the left opens to the family room

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This is the plan as it is now. The kitchen opens to the dining room and the pantry. The laundry has been relocated to the bedroom wing. I am on well water so I do not plan on having water and ice in the fridge door.

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30" Bosch single convection wall oven. I am thinking about putting a Bosch steam oven above but I already have a counter top Cuisinart steam/ convection oven.

Is the built in steam oven a must have?

36" induction cooktop with hood above

36" full depth refrigerator

32" single bowl ss sink

Bosch Dishwasher

Microwave drawer or over the counter with trim (undecided) - thoughts?

Pantry cabinet with pull out shelves for oil, spices, canned goods etc - things I use everyday.

Thanks for taking a second look!

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lisa_a

8 years ago

I would have drawn this out but I can't copy and save your photo to amend it in Paint.

Instead of flipping sink and range, as biondanonima suggested, I'd swap the fridge and oven locations. Better workflow and puts the fridge next to the DR so it's much easier to grab things to bring to the table.

I can't tell how deep the wall is between kitchen and DR but if it's 30", that will work just fine against a standard depth fridge. The wall will not hinder fridge door from opening all the way. Fir out the sink run cabs for a deeper counter run.

Keep the aisle between sink counter and island at 45". That will shrink your seating aisle so you will need to adjust the island's length a bit to maintain a seating aisle of 44". You might be able to get by with a slightly narrower aisle but mock it up to make sure it doesn't hinder traffic through your kitchen first.

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biondanonima (Zone 7a Hudson Valley)
8 years ago
Can you flip your stove and sink? I know it's nice to have the sink in front of the window but having the stove between fridge and sink is not optimal for workflow. Having the cooktop so close to the corner is also not fun. My current kitchen is laid out this way and it's very annoying, especially the distance between the fridge and sink.

It looks like you're doing two smaller windows on the current sink wall - could you space them far enough apart to put the stove between them?
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07Cooper
Original Author
8 years ago
Can you flip your stove and sink? I can do that though I would prefer not to split the windows.
07Cooper
Original Author
8 years ago
I'd swap the fridge and oven locations. Better workflow and puts the fridge next to the DR so it's much easier to grab things to bring to the table. I can't tell how deep the wall is between kitchen and DR but if it's 30", that will work just fine against a standard depth fridge.

I don't actually need a full depth fridge and could go with CD if I were to move the fridge adjacent to the dining room.
07Cooper
Original Author
8 years ago
I am thinking I might forgo the microwave and put a speed oven above the wall oven. I used to have an over the range convection microwave and used that more than the big oven to bake. Do the speed ovens allow you to heat up a cup of coffee like a microwave?
lisa_a
8 years ago
"I don't actually need a full depth fridge and could go with CD if I were to move the fridge adjacent to the dining room."

Regardless of fridge size, spec the wall next to the fridge to be the same or close to the same depth as the fridge box/cabinet so that the wall doesn't interfere with opening your door wide enough to pull fridge drawers out.

"Do the speed ovens allow you to heat up a cup of coffee like a microwave?"

My GE Advantium speed oven does. I assume other models of speed ovens work the same way.
biondanonima (Zone 7a Hudson Valley)
8 years ago
Swapping the fridge and oven is another (and possibly better) solution - just be sure that short wall lets you open your fridge fully. Since the oven is narrower than a fridge, be sure to scoot the cooktop a few inches farther from the corner, too. Your original plan shows no cabinet in that corner - why?
mama goose_gw zn6OH
8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Buehl doesn't like to build in zone crossing, unless there is no alternative layout. If you frequently have help in the kitchen, her plan will provide better function. A helper can load or unload the DW, or gather dishes to set the table, without being in your path to the fridge while you are prepping or cooking. The island is wide enough to provide a couple of prep spaces for helpers, too, so that could be worked out according to the layout you choose.

However, I do like lisa_a's suggestion to bring the counters out to match the box of a full-depth fridge, if you switch appliances. A full-depth fridge will provide more storage, and probably be less expensive than a comparable CD model. (Plan on right.) Click to enlarge:

I adjusted the width of the cooktop in both plans, but in a small kitchen, a 36" cooktop seems to be overkill, unless you regularly cook for a huge crowd or cook complicated meals with many sauces.

lisa_a, when I can't copy a pic, I hit my printscreen button and paste the image to Paint, then crop for the image I want.