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Restaining vs replacing cabinets

Apologies if this is a dumb question...

Background: I joined GardenWeb back in 2010 when I was looking to update my kitchen. Needless to say, 8 years later, that update has still not been done. Between 2 job loses and more pressing issues (new HVAC among other things) the kitchen had to be put on the backburner.

The time has now come where I can update things. The layout is fine; we aren't moving plumbing or doing anything structural. But I would like new countertops and a backsplash. We replaced the white appliances and have stainless now, which looks so much better than the original white, and was able to keep me from pining over new kitchens for quite a while.

My cabinets are 20 year old birch wood. They were installed by the builder (house is 20 years old) as an upgrade as this was a spec house (and we are not the original owners). They are stained a medium brown color which has held up pretty well overall, however there are several areas, mainly the island, where the stain in sorely wearing down. We have the same cabinets throughout the house and the stain is wearing off much quicker in the cabinet bathrooms where there is a lot more humidity. I used Howard's Restor-A-Finish with a bit of success, only to have it short lived.

I have considered having the cabinets re-stained, but I spoke to a friend of the family that had it done and she said it was much messier, and smelly, than she had anticipated. My husband and daughter both have asthma, so fumes are a concern. This isn't something we would attempt ourselves - we would have this professionally done. My friend said even with plastic covering the rest of the kitchen, there were still fine wood particles everywhere, similar to having your wood floors refinished. And whatever finish they used had a strong smell that lingered for weeks.

So then I thought if it's that bad, maybe I should consider replacing the cabinets. But that seems wasteful to me as the cabinets seems to be in decent shape. Plus, I don't want a white kitchen, we like the warmth of darker wood, even though all you seem to see are white kitchens today, so it seems silly to replace cabinets with similar ones. We aren't planning on moving anytime soon, so anything we do will be for "us". But that also begs the question is it dumb to put granite or quartz on 20 year old cabinets?

I guess I'm asking if anyone has had experience having cabinets professionally refinished. Is it as messy and smelly as I've heard? Am I better off considering replacement? If I were to change anything I would get cabinets that go up to the ceiling, so that would be a plus.

I should add that I don't like the look of painted cabinets, so I don't know if that's a good option for me. About a year ago, my cousin had her creamy white cabinets professionally painted (with a sprayer, not a brush) bright white and the paint is already chipping around the high use areas, like where her garbage can pull is.

Any advice is appreciated.

Comments (10)

  • 8 years ago

    Replacing cabinets, can be pricey, especially if you already have wood cabinets, can you replace just the fronts if you dislike them, or the hardware?

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Refacing cabinets can be as costly as new ones, and one still doesn't have drawers underneath (a goal for most!).

    I would get prices on new cabinets.

  • 8 years ago

    To me it would come down to cost and functionality.

    My friend had her maple cabinets stained. Most of the work was done offsite and I don't recall her having issues with sawdust or horrible smells. To have it done properly, is pretty much equivalent to a total renovation in terms of inconvenience.

    She was happy with the function so it really was a cosmetic remodel as sink stayed where it was - wall ovens stayed where they were - cook top remained where it was. She might have had the carpenter put in a new cabinet but it was fairly minimal.

    Yes drawers are great but retrofitted pullouts also function well for lower cabinets.

    I am currently having my kitchen remodeled and it's a gut remodel because I want to change the layout for more functionality even though I can't move the sink or stove much (high rise so plumbing and vents are where they are :-).

    Get a realistic bid for how much new cabinets would cost versus a professional refinishing job and then - at least to me - it becomes a cost benefit analysis based on what you would achieve with new cabinets versus cost and whether you can afford the difference.

  • 8 years ago

    I was planning a similar kitchen refresh (re-stain, counter & backsplash), but after starting my research it didn't make sense to keep 17 year old cabinets with poor quality drawer hardware. I have large appliances and I didn't want to be tied to the spacing for older appliances that have had several service calls. I know the new version of my Thermador oven/micro/warming drawer tower has different dimensions. At that point I also decided to change the layout slightly.

    So the re-fresh turned into a full gut and remodel with everything new.

    They just started yesterday ...

  • 8 years ago

    vivien - dumb question, are the cabinet fronts just screwed in? I looked in the drawers and that's what it appears to be. The cabinet doors have inside hinges (thank goodness) so those should not be too hard if I want to replace them. The drawers are not tongue-in-groove so I'm not sure if they're considered good quality. I replaced the knobs several years ago and the brushed nickel looks much better than the cheap brass that was originally on them.

    Jhmarie - I don't think my friend used a water based finished. Her cabinet company recommended a different one that supposedly lasted longer. They said they had to stain the boxes so even though they did the doors at their shop, they still sanded the boxes at her house.

    I had the company that build the cabinets come out a few years ago to give me a quote on restaining. They unfortunately do not carry that particular stain any more so I was told the boxes would need to be done since it would look off just doing the doors. I was quoted something like $1,500 for the restaining vs I'm guessing at least 10x that for new cabinets.

    I'll look into just replacing the doors and drawer fronts.

  • 8 years ago

    We refinished/reconfigured our maple cabinets. Some of the work was done by us, and some by the cabinet maker and cabinet refinisher. The cabinet frames were refinished on site. Since we bought new doors and drawer fronts, they were finished off site. If you are hiring a refinisher, they could probably do that also, reducing the amount of dust and chemical exposure you have in your house. Just be sure to be very clear about everything, so you get the correct pricing for what you want done. Then compare the price to new. I really like the modification we made for drawers by the stove, and I wish we had done more. We put pull outs in some of the other lowers.

    Here's the link to the thread about our project:

    [Cabinet refinish/reconfiguration[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/almost-finished-stained-cabinets-green-granite-dsvw-vd~2529831)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    What do the cabinets look like?

    Are the drawer boxes dovetailed? Or just nailed?

    Are you bottom cabinets doors or drawers and if doors, do you ROI?

  • 8 years ago

    Oil based finishes not only smell, they yellow / amber over time. There are many good water based polyurethanes. It does take more coats for water based - perhaps that is what your friend's refinisher did not want to deal with. Oil based takes 2 coats an water based needs at least four. I do use oil based for outdoor projects, but indoor cabinets would be fine with a water based finish, especially if the people in the home have asthma or related problems.

  • 8 years ago

    cpartist - drawers are just nailed (sorry, I used the term tongue and groove when the correct term is dovetailed) with 3 tiny pin nails on each side. The bottom cabinets are doors, no drawers. I will attempt to upload a picture.