Need expert advice on patio framing! PLEASE!!

8 years ago

Hi! I am going to reframe my patio soon and have had a couple of framers come by but none of them have been able to tell me if what I want is possible because they “can’t tell from the picture” but I think it’s pretty clear? ... they have said that the only way to achieve a higher pitch in the patio would be to do a gable or raise the patio roof up only a couple of feet on the roof to increase the angle... the first picture what I would like the roof to look like (minus the fireplace, etc) because I need to add some height to my patio in order to add fans and the proper slope. So, if possible I would like to replace the existing patio posts/ roof, etc with a wood framed patio that extends from the existing point on the house and then has a pitch on the patio section only... the others are my current patio. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

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snowconey
Original Author
8 years ago
When I added the pictures, the one that I want was the first picture but now it seems to be the 3rd... thank you for your help!!!!
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8 years ago
You need an architect to draw plans and blueprints for the framers to follow. And to decide the feasibility of what you wish to do. Seems to me what you want will create another pitched roof beside the existing house roof---meaning there will be water collection and runoff disposal problems.
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klem1
8 years ago
I think I know why framers are having trouble with the picture. First off that's either not an actual patio roof or one of sorry design. There's no laths for sheet metal it would rattle in the slightest breeze then blow off in anything above 40 mph wind. Another thing is wide angle focal length of camera lens make's the room look like half of a hexagonal roof like is popular on gazebos when in reality I believe it's actually a hip. I recommend a gable style roof with same pitch as house has. The width of new roof dictate's how far up old roof the ridge starts. Tear off shingles and alow rafters to rest on deck if decking is 1/2" or more plywood,5/8ths or more osb or 1x boards. If deck is thin,weak or unlevel,rest all jack rafters on a 2x6 with angle ripped along valley. Let's talk about complications. I would not rest beams on house,construct dedicated pillers against wall of house. The underside of new roof that's over old roof will be unattractive if framed as suggested above so you need to think about what to do about it. The simplest solution is framing in a wall to cover the void. If you want beams same as patio,reinforcment in attic will be required to transfer weight to walls of house. Since you have no ceiling and consequently no ceiling joists above patio,you will have to do something to prevent walls spreading under load of roof. You could install beams from plate to plate or even painted cables. If it were mine I would remove patio door,wall between door and window,window and possibly additional wall then install a lam-beam above. Where door and wall were removed,two pair of hinged double doors.
snowconey
Original Author
8 years ago
Wow, thank you so much for the explanation, that really does make a lot of sense... do you think it would be a lot more expensive to do the lam beam option vs building a gable into the roof?
klem1
8 years ago
A laminated beam would only be necessary if the supporting wall was removed. If you leave the door and window as is,no need for it. As for cost,that depend's on you and the folks you hire.