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Windmill Palms in Massachusetts?

8 years ago

Has anyone had any luck with windmill palms in Massachusetts? I live outside of Boston and it I know my hardiness zone is 6B. However, this year was the first year in almost 10 that we’ve gone below freezing, so I think with the next update, we’ll be 7. With winter protection and strategic planting location, would it be possible for an outdoor windmill palm? Or another palm? If anyone has had luck, let me me know. Thanks!

Comments (9)

  • 8 years ago

    First time in 10 years you've gone below freezing? Is that in a greenhouse? I tried numerous windmills in a cold z7a (Maryland) and was unsuccessful long term. That's with protection. I'd recommend trying a needle palm or yuccas.

  • 8 years ago

    No, that was outside. We very rarely go below 0. We average between 5 and 10 for our coldest night every year.

  • 8 years ago

    Freezing is 32F or 0C :-) And I'd bet that happens with considerable frequency in 6B!!

    Without winter protection, I'd seriously doubt a windmill palm will overwinter successfully in your zone. As noted, they are pretty iffy in even a zone 7 location.

  • 8 years ago

    Whoops! I meant to say zero! Haha. Yes, we go below FREEZING every year!

  • 8 years ago

    What happened to it? Did the cold get to it?

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, cold killed it. I had it protected in a wire fence cage stuffed with leaves and wrapped in shrink wrap but just too cold. They don’t do well with long duration winters and can’t handle repeat temps below 10 F. One brief drop to 5F may not kill it but five drops to 10F with highs in the teens will kill them. Trachycarpus is not a z6b plant, more like 7b when north of Virginia since cold duration is longer. Needle palms will survive here, just buy several as not all will survive. I had 2 needles out this past winter unprotected and both are fine with no burn. Much hardier than Trachycarpus.

  • 8 years ago

    If you want, needle palms (Rhapidophyllum hystrix) can be grown as a houseplant until they get bigger.

    http://w2.weather.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=box

    Monthly Lowest Min Temperature for Boston Area, MA

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

    2000 0 13 16 34 42 46 55 56 38 33 17 8 0

    2001 12 10 17 32 38 50 56 58 48 34 29 23 10

    2002 22 13 19 28 37 47 58 58 50 32 19 12 12

    2003 1 0 9 28 39 50 59 55 49 33 27 16 0

    2004 -7 12 21 30 40 49 59 56 47 38 24 6 -7

    2005 -2 13 11 33 39 48 56 60 48 33 21 10 -2

    2006 10 7 18 33 44 52 62 55 45 37 32 20 7

    2007 3 8 5 28 42 50 56 55 47 37 22 17 3

    2008 7 11 25 33 40 52 61 56 48 33 22 9 7

    2009 6 8 14 34 45 48 58 56 46 34 35 10 6

    2010 6 14 25 35 40 53 60 60 51 37 28 14 6

    2011 -2 13 12 33 44 49 63 62 48 34 31 18 -2

    2012 6 16 20 34 45 50 61 60 49 35 30 21 6

    2013 4 15 21 31 40 53 60 59 44 35 18 9 4

    2014 2 8 11 31 43 51 59 58 46 39 23 18 2

    2015 -1 -3 9 30 39 46 59 61 48 31 28 24 -3

    2016 8 -9 21 22 42 54 59 61 48 34 30 4 -9

    2017 11 11 9 33 42 47 56 57 50 40 22 2 2

    2018 -2 10 16 29 M M M M M M M M -2

  • 6 years ago

    I have seen that IF you add some heat into the shelters in winter that a Windmill palm can survive and do great. Heat is a string or 2 of incandescent Christmas lights woven into that shelter and use a "thermocube" or a "pipe heater" that you can find at any Home improvement store in the plumbing Dept. It comes on once the temps reach a certain temperature, like the ones at Home Depot come on when it goes below 39F and shut off once it reaches 59F. I use them in my greenhouse inside a small mini greenhouse for my tender plants since I am in zone 6a hardiness cold zone. Look on Youtube-" Growing palm trees in Avella, Pa". You'll see the shelters and the way the lights are used to provide heat inside the shelters. Avella, Pa is close to Pittsburgh, Pa so it is a zone 6b there and it will all work in zone 6a or maybe even lower since heat is added when needed, BTW, "incandescent" bulbs in Christmas lights are NOT LED lights, and I have ONLY found them at Home Depot stores, MOST places ONLY have LED lights and LED lights will NOT give off any heat. I hope this info helps someone.

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