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Is this a good idea for a french drain?

8 years ago

I have a section on the side of my house that gets very swampy during heavy rains. The ground slopes towards my foundation due to my house being built on a hillside. My basement leaks during these heavy rains and I think this is the reason why. I figured a french drain would solve this problem.


Here is a picture of the yard. The pieces of roof panel against the house cover window wells.


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The section on the left side of the sidewalk is the section that gets swampy. You can't tell in the photo but the other side of the bushes on the left is sloped towards my house. Additionally the awning on the side of my houses causes some water to drip to the area as well.


I have two french drain designs, one on the right side of the sidewalk and one on the left.


A side view of the first option is shown below:



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In this design the french drain is on the right side of the sidewalk and the ground is regraded away from the foundation. This design I think would be harder due to the fact I'd have to tunnel under the sidewalk.


Here is the second option:



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This option has the french drain on the left side of the sidewalk. I suppose I could regrade the ground next to the foundation as well.


Any advice on which option would be better?


Here is a picture of the opposite end where the drain would discharge:



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Would I run the drain to the street or just run far enough away from the house and let it weep into the ground or to daylight? Also any recommendations on the width and depth of the drain ditch?

Comments (10)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    If you can, a shallow swale would be better than a french drain.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I am not sure why everyone is so quick to suggest swales over a French drain - they do not do the same thing nor are they designed to do the same thing!! A swale is a water collection or retention element: a French drain is a drainage element, intended to move water away from a specific location, not hold it for any length of time. They can't/shouldn't be used interchangeably.

    Besides that, a swale is a permanent indentation in the landscape contour and is a very awkward feature to have to deal with in a smallish enclosed space, such as the above narrow side yard. A French or curtain drain will be invisible. But if you've never installed one yourself, I'd get some experienced (even professional) help. They are a lot of work and need to be designed and constructed properly.

  • 8 years ago

    A swale can be graded to provide across the surface drainage in the same way that the French drain provides under the surface drainage. I have both on my property.

  • 8 years ago

    My basement leaks during these heavy rains. Do yourself a favor and fix the problem, don't put a band-aid on it. The whole side of the home needs to be waterproofed AND a french drain installed. A dry and tight basement is a huge selling point. If the garage does not have an door into the home a new wider walk will also be an asset. Rather pricey - yes...and worth every penny.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for the comments. I thought of digging down to the footing, but quite frankly the leaking issue is not that bad as it leaks only a handful of times each year. The leaking is minor and just drains away in a floor drain. I don't plan on living in this house too long so I'd rather not spend too much money on it.


    Does anyone have any input on my plans for the drain?

  • 8 years ago
    If you are not going to dig down to waterproof the wall then I would opt for solution “b” because it captures the source of the runoff water further away from the foundation, which would stop the ground from being as saturated close to the house. It does not look like you have any room to raise the grade against the house because you are going to be burying brick if you do.
    Consequently, along with your French drain, I would remove and re-lay the walkway at a lower grade ( also sloping slightly towards your French drain) so that you can also get the surface grade to slope away from the house towards your drain.
  • 8 years ago

    Wow thanks Kivi. I'll have to look into the walkway.

  • 8 years ago

    Unless there is a row of brick buried by the grass, when I compare the sidewalk to both concrete slabs in the photo, the sidewalk appears to be slightly lower than both, making the sidewalk lower than the bottom of the lowest brick. If true, you may be able to regrade without removing the sidewalk. If you go with a swale, it should be 10ft from the foundation and expect it to take a bit of time to dry after a big storm. The reason I prefer to move water above ground is that a large storm will not overload the system.

    Could there be a drainpipe contributing to the basement leak? Have you traced the source of the leak? Can you duplicate the leak by pouring water in the area?

    Good luck!

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Option b make sure to use the correct fabric around the French drain even on top so the soil doesn't fill the voids around the rocks over time. I'd take it to the road if you could.

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