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Flower Not What I Expected.

My three-inch tall seedling (seed germinated Oct. 2017) from Mr. Ko on eBay has just opened up its first flower today


. It is # 27 on his website. As you can see in the pics, my flower, with the exception of red and white, bears very little resemblance to the website photo. Vive la difference, I suppose, unless you think that future blooms may more closely mimic Mr. Ko's flower. I have a second seedling of the same kind close to opening its first flower so it will be interesting to compare the two plants.

Comments (21)

  • 8 years ago

    I think its cute.

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you.. I do too!. The color is actually a richer shade of scarlet but my iPad's camera doesn't capture that exactly.

  • 8 years ago

    A correction!. It is number 69 on Mr. Ko's website.. Number 27 is my personal reference number to keep track of my numerous seedlings.. Sorry for the confusion.

  • 8 years ago

    Looks funny in a nice way nice job:×)

  • 8 years ago

    I actually like it better than the reference photo. Remember seed propagation is not cloning, so variability does occur.

  • 8 years ago

    paradiseprincess51,

    I have 3 Ko_ebay69 from seeds with different flowers. I hope that your and my others will produce special blooms.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    OK, your photo inspired me to finally accquire an adenium, so ebay to the rescue and this should be here by next week:

    However, being a grafted plant, I expect exactly what I see. I have toyed with the idea of seedlings, but I have limited space and decided to get something that appeals to me.

  • 8 years ago

    Well, if you are expecting yours to be EXACTLY like the photo, see above. Or you may be disappointed yet again and again. ;) Good luck and happy growing!

  • 8 years ago

    Umm, with grafted, I should get pretty much exactly..it's clonal propagation. Right, Patty?

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    DBarron: A reputable merchant will take a picture of the actual plant being sold and its bloom. What you receive should be exactly what you purchased. Otherwise, they are not reputable. I am not a seller and I can demonstrate the actual bloom for each plant I own.

    ParadisePrincess: Yes, that is KO_69 ... I have that one, as well. Mine are still seedlings. I would like you to please take a look at my post on this thread so you can see what "not true to parent" actually means from a visual perspective. https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5289015/how-are-my-obesum-seedlings-doing?n=6

    Also, check out BLOOMS FROM SEEDS 2, which is a thread for everyone to share what they expected vs. what they got. I think it's a great way to let fellow forum members know what to expect from the seeds we purchase. https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5136275/blooms-from-seed-2?n=51

    Before you do, here is one of my seed grown blooms. This is the original seed purchased ... was trying to grow a carnation looking bloom for a friend:

    ... but this is what I got so far:

    All the best to you ... Enjoy your blooms!!

    Maria Elena

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Maria, and your blossom reminds me very much of certain kurkuma ginger flowers in form. Very nice.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Well yes and no. A grafted plant /may/ bloom exactly like the photos shown by the seller but keep in mind that temperature and how you feed it, all of the ways you grow it that differ from the original seller will effect how your plant produces it's flowers. So while it's genetically the same cultivar, if your cultivation of that plant varies too far off of the original seller's photo, your flower may in fact not look too much like the photo.

    Take for example a very black-purple triple layered flower. If your temperatures are not hot enough, and you don't feed, and your plant is young... you can get a deep red pink flower that may even be a single layer! Because it's too immature, and not been fed enough to have the energy to produce a triple layered bloom. And if your temperatures and sunlight exposure are too low, you won't bring out the rich darker colors.

    So it's not really a good idea to make a blanket statement that your grafted plant will be exactly the same appearance as the original photo. There will also be some natural variations in pattern, especially if you are looking at the petal patterns of cultivars like Indigo Glaze - the straited layers may not be there if your plant isn't blooming in peak condition under the right high temperatures and humidity. If you grow such a cultivar under lights in a cool basement for example, your expectations of it blooming exactly like a grower's in Taiwan who grows in high humidity in full sun aren't going to be realistic, if you think you'll get flowers looking exactly the same. That's just basic horticultural common sense.

  • 8 years ago

    Some colors are easier to duplicate pretty close to the original growers - but some are not. So it's wise to do your homework and understand that some of the adenium flowers need rather exact requirements to make them replicate the photos we see. And sometimes, as mentioned, if they aren't a reputable seller then their photos may be photoshopped.

  • 8 years ago

    Great point, Hyn ... growing culture does affect everything! A plant grown in New York is not going to have the same coloration / vigor as one grown in the tropics.

  • 8 years ago

    True, I'm amazed how different some AVs are in summer vs winter, etc. However, I know if I vary my culture I should get what I expect (eventually) (lol).

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    我們每一種(例如:KO_ebay69)授粉種子數量龐大所以你購買的15~120粒種子應該是出自15~120個不同種莢都是從KO_ebay69母本採收種子父本花粉是挑選多樣化。漂亮種類進行授粉。所以購買我們的種子。不會像你在家庭中採收的種子。花朵的相似度較高。

    現在ebay授粉種子圖片有指定父本。後代相對也會更加令人期待。

  • 8 years ago

    For those that prefer English..the prior post translated (via google) is:

    • Each of us (eg KO_ebay69) has a large number of pollinated seeds so the 15 to 120 seeds you purchase should be from 15 to 120 different species. All of them are harvested from the parent seed of KO_ebay69. Parental pollen is a selection variety. Beautiful species pollinated. So buy our seeds. Not like the seeds you harvested in your home. The similarity of flowers is higher.

    • Now the eBay pollination seed picture has a designated parent. Offspring will also be more desirable.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Dbarron, a good example of how different blooms can be is under "Black Widow". I posted not that long ago. Just about every single bloom was different on my same plant. It's crazy. check that post out.

    By the way, I'm a born and raised Arkansan! (North East AR)

  • 8 years ago

    And you left for the sweat pool of Houston (pls note I moved BACK from Houston about five years ago)? :)

    Yeah, that's pretty different alright (your blooms). Mine is growing fabulously, because it's hot and sweaty here right now. I hope to see blooms before long, and see what mine looks like.

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, wayyyyy too hot here! Lol.