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Entryway rainwater management - gutter, rain chain, or?

8 years ago

We have a unique entryway (poorly designed...?) that doesn't have a gutter on the roof that hangs over the front porch, so torrents of water pour on anyone entering the house. We are thinking of putting a gutter along the 13' stretch over the front door, but do not want to run the gutter down the side, nor have a downspout. So our idea is to run the gutter and then have a rain chain as the "downspout" in the right corner, which would be attached down into the flower beds (which need extra rain because the sun beats there). This design seems like the best option given limited options, but were wondering if anyone has a suggestion that we haven't thought of. Pictures of the entryway, and then a pic as an example of what we are thinking.










The previous owners had piece of metal tacked into the roof over that 13' to divert the water to either side. This caused leaves to pile up, ice to build up, etc. So we are not going that route.

Comments (24)

  • 8 years ago

    Depending on how much rain you get, a rain chain might not be efficient. You might end up with a more condensed torrent, dropping at a fast rate into one very small area. That will cause a whole host of problems like dirt splashing up, a crater being formed, worst case scenario a minor flood. It also won't really accomplish what you're hoping as far as watering the garden because it will be localized to that back corner rather than distributed across the whole bed.

    I'm a big fan of rain barrels. What if your rain chain (or downspout if your climate requires) ended in a rain barrel in the corner there? Sometimes people elevate them on platforms and use a spigot for easy filling of watering cans. This is a pretty example, but not raised.

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  • PRO
    8 years ago

    You want gutters to run around the perimeter and tie into the gutters on the ajoining areas so there are no downspots in the courtyard.

  • 8 years ago

    lindsey - you're right in that I think the amount of rain I'd want it to handle would be pushing it - I was going to get a big chain with cups which claims to solve the problem of splashing (but who knows). I do think we would just end up with a pile of water in one spot though, even if it doesn't splash. I love rain barrels, but I'm not sure we want standing water right there (mosquito heaven). Nor have I found awesome looking rain barrels. I'll have to do some digging.

    BeverlyFLADeziner - That would be the easiest! I'm not sure I want that many gutters surrounding the entry...but I guess if we are putting them on one side what's two more?!? I just thought we could come up with something a little sleeker looking.


  • PRO
    8 years ago

    If you do some research you'll find there are many profiles for gutters. Just depends on whether the contractor you hire has the profile you want.

  • 8 years ago

    BeverlyFLADeziner - Do you think it would be OK to mix and match gutter types? Especially given they would be flowing into one another?

  • 8 years ago

    You also dont want all that water from a bigger rain storm, coming down the rain chain and ending up by your foundation. The idea is to drain downspouts out away from the house, not right next to it.

  • 8 years ago

    Jen-

    If you have different profile gutters, it will be difficult-to-impossible to join them and have the joints remain waterproof. You should stick with one style. If you really are choosy about what the new gutter around the entry will look like, then you should also consider replacing the old gutter if you want a different style.

  • 8 years ago

    Do the gutters. It will look weird to not have them on the sides (regardless of function) because they will look naked if you don't. Make them all match, and if you can swap them all out to a simple modern profile, they will ALL look better.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    That's an unusual layout. Most people would want a roof over the porch. If it were my house, I'd be inclined to add one. Then I'd just continue the gutter across the front.

    If you like the light -- maybe skylights? That's above my pay grade, though.

  • 8 years ago

    Fori - I think that's the way we are going to go. Decided it won't look as bad as we thought.

    DavidR - It is unusual. We aren't going to close it in because of the light we get from the opening. Thought about skylights but that is WAY down the road if we would do that.

  • 8 years ago

    Just wanted to update: We went the original rain chain route, with a gutter just on the 13' stretch over the door (not down the sides). The gutter blends in well, and the rain chain looks pretty neat. We got a heavy duty one - large cups that are close together (no chain in between cups) and we don't have any splashing. We had heavy rains a few times and the chain handled well. We are either going to put a larger flower put under it, or make a little rock drainage trail away from the house. Thanks everyone!


  • 8 years ago

    Gentle reminder; keep a close watch on the siding where it touches the cement and mulch. Those are the first areas where water damage will become apparent.

  • 8 years ago

    Would love to see pics!

  • 8 years ago
    it's not perfect, but for a $20 gutter, 20 min of work, and a rain chain I'll take it!
  • 8 years ago
    Like the look of the rain chain. It might just be the angle of the picture but does the gutter slope towards the chain or the opposite direction?
  • 8 years ago
    Looks good!
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  • 8 years ago
    Hemina it slopes toward chain. A little too much imo but I'm not the one who would fix it so I'll keep my mouth shut ;)
  • 8 years ago
    aylso the railing is going eventually, so it won't look so crowded by the chain.
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Like your solution. You could put a few river rocks at the base of the chain to handle heavier downpours.

    I also thought about extending your roof line and getting rid of the cross brace.



  • 8 years ago

    Your door looks so much better!

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Elizabeth B! Now on to paint...maybe next summer :)

  • 8 years ago

    I like it! I wanted rain chains to end in my rain barrels but Husband won't have it, he fears they won't handle our PNW rain load.

  • 8 years ago
    If you do convince him get extra large cups and a chain that doesn't have "space" between the cups. That's where splashing happens. i love listening to it when it's raining.
    It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission . good luck!