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Light fixture and placement.

8 years ago

1. Does anyone recognize this light fixture or one very similar to it?

2. In a room with ceilings similar in height to this...would you order a longer chain and have the fixture closer to the table. Or is this height just fine?

thanks.


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  • 8 years ago

    I bought one similar to the one you posted off of amazon. My kids lovingly refer to it as a Pac-Man ghost! LoL

    CLAXY Ecopower Lighting Industrial Vintage 6-lights Candle Chandeliers

    Ive seen some also on wayfair.


    ILoveRed thanked sabrinatx
  • 8 years ago

    The height would depend on how else they use the room. In that first photo they obviously wanted to keep the river/lake view open and raised up the chandelier. Maybe during parties they move the table to the side and it still allows people to walk under it.

    I would order a long chain to give me as many options as possible when the electrician goes to hang the chandelier. Chain links can be easily opened and removed to get the perfect length. Sometimes the rules don't work for a certain space, or use, and you just have to eye-ball the perfect measurement.

    ILoveRed thanked chispa
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    For high ceilings measure for chain length and add 2’. A high ceiling needs a higher chandelier. It should hang so the bottom point of the chandelier is 30-33” above the table top. An open look chandelier like you posted will be easy to “see through” if views are an issue. Here are a few to consider. If you take advantage of the weekend sales on Houzz let me know so i can set you up for my Trade Discount which will get you another 5% off on most items.
    ILoveRed thanked Flo Mangan
  • 8 years ago

    Good morning all..sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread. Thank you all for helping me find this chandelier. I found it on several sites once you identified it by name... by a couple of different names. Some good reviews. Lots of pics on Wayfair. I love the fixture but unfortunately I don’t think it’s large enough and I think it may be too black.

    lots of good advice on placement as well.

    I definitely want a fixture with a dark tone and I thought I wanted black but I think black is just too dark. This fixture will go over a long narrow table (10 ft by 4 ft) and will have a view beyond so good point Chispa about why this one might be so high in the picture. But it looks high.

    my room is a “gathering room” with dining on one end and a sitting area on the other end ...the lakeview end. The room adjoins the kitchen so the kitchen fixtures in polished nickel are within view. No fireplace or tv...just a place to visit, read, on sitting end area of room.

    I’m thinking about using twin large light fixtures on each end of the room as in this pic. One over the table and one over the sitting area..In that case would both fixtures be placed high as in this picture? Or would the dining fixture be low and the other high? Or meet in the middle and both fixtures a little lower than this pic.?

    Flo...thanks for the other light suggestions. I don’t know what I want to use in this room. These are close. Nothing with any bling but it needs to be large.

    Even thought about large lanterns. But, I’m afraid they are trendy and will date the house.

    thanks!


  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Ok, here is my thoughts. First, always hang a fixture over a table at 30-33" above table top to bottom of fixture. Second, in a seating area, if the fixture is over an ottoman or coffee table then you just have to hang it to clear heads by 6". So for most that means you can drop the fixture to around 7' above floor level to bottom of fixture. Now some caveats. If the chandelier is heavy, or the shape is unusual or specific, you have to make adjustments as needed. With a dining table that long, you probably should either do 2 chandeliers or one long rectangular shape fixture. To keep things open, you can do a number of things like the cages. The cage shape is rather timeless too. So I consider the "rules" are more like guidelines. But DEFINATELY NO MORE THAN 33" OVER TABLE. This is the most common problem and mistake people make. I also would recommend two different fixtures for over the dining table and in the family room area. They should "talk" to each other (in other words, have some similar elements) so they work together, but lighting sets the style tone in most rooms, so keep that in mind. You also have to consider the light level you need in each space. So, you might be fine with a 12 light in the dining room with that long table, but in the fam. room you only need a 6-8 light. I don't think the black would be too dark and it is very easy to touch up black with a product called Rub and Buff (available at Hobby Lobby and on line at Amazon) in all kinds of metallic tones and you can touch black with gold for example and bring the contrast down. Also, by repeating the black on the center pieces on the table you can bring the black into a total look. I repeat accent colors 3 times in each space. Helps make things cohesive.

    Quoizel Gallery 6-Light Island Chandelier, Royal Ebony · More Info
    Here is example of a longer fixture that might be nice, however, you have to tell me the configuration of the ceiling so I can tell if the ceiling junction box needs a circular ceiling plate or not. Also, if you do two fixtures, the fixtures need to be able to hang on an angle. So this fixture above has a rectangular ceiling plate so that might not work on your ceiling. Need photos to determine specifics. But I like the see through aspect of this type fixture and we can find ones that would work with your ceiling.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I have a 10' ceiling in my dining area and hung my chandelier 36" off the table. Any lower would have looked off. I wouldn't go higher than 36". (Funny in this photo, it looks higher than it does in RL)

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    @cpartist. Great fixture. And your height is about right. I would have dropped a couple inches but you are quite right. Each situation requires that eyeball test. Hence, my comment that “guidelines” is a better term than “rules”. Very nice.
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I also would recommend two different fixtures for over the dining table and in the family room area. They should "talk" to each other (in other words, have some similar elements) so they work together, but lighting sets the style tone in most rooms, so keep that in mind.

    How different should they be?

    For example, could I, theoretically, buy the same fixture and keep one as-is, and then change the other's metal color *and* frost/color the glass shades? Maybe add some crystal danglies/chainmaille and/or wire-wrapping accents, as well?

    I realize a DIY approach isn't recommended by a lot of folks, but I am super super picky (I am, apparently, *that* lighting customer, lol). While I'm not looking at cage-type fixtures, I am considering buying simple candle type ones, painting the metal, and adding painted/frosted glass cylinders (of different heights, too, most likely) to cover the bulbs. :-D

    Would something like that make them different enough? If I could find ways to differentiate 5 units (1 above kitchen sink, 1 in kids' hallway, 1 in master hall, 2 in foyer), could I get three 3-bulb and two 5-bulb fixtures *and* have them all "talk to each other" without arguing? lol

  • 8 years ago

    I’m not being rude. Just busy today..but will be back too.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    The differences would be subtle but important. I personally don't like using same ones except for two over a dining table for example. But you can pair up by searching for similar characteristics in each "category" to make everything "talk to each other nicely--no fighting!" haha! Post a drawing of where you need fixtures and I can help further. Photos if you have any would be helpful. Otherwise, I'm looking for needles in a haystack.

  • 8 years ago

    [Please forgive the derailing, Miss Red. :-) ]

    To the lovely Miss Flo... :-)

    Here's the fixture I'm considering (it comes in 3- and 5-bulb... I have a "thing" with odd numbers):


    Sea Gull Lighting 31807827 Bell Metal Bronze Holman 3 Light Candelbra Chandelier · More Info


    Basic enough (with swirly-gigs; it must have simple swirly-gigs, lol), with platform/base space to add glass shades/hurricanes/chimneys/whatever they're called, to cover the "candle" and "flame." I strongly dislike seeing bulbs. ;-)

    Here's my floor plan (Gehan Homes "Laurel" built mid-2017); a few modifications were made, but none that impact the living areas, except the island was turned 90* (husband wants a simple pot rack above it):



    Star = Recessed cans to be converted into pendants/chandeliers; the ceiling (which is continuous -- no breaks between rooms -- and 10' high) is most unfortunately littered with cans

    X = Ceiling Fan (existing); all dark bronze; Parlor & Family match, Play coordinates; all the same brand

    Large rectangle below "Dining" = Custom fixture to be done later, using dark walnut stained pine "frame", iron swirly brackets inside corners, LED flameless candles on timers to sit on pine ledge/frame, and chain

    The two lights in the Foyer/Rotunda need to match exactly, at husband's request (the builder put in a flush mount boob light in the Foyer and a matchy semi flush boob in the Rotunda; he says it bugs him that they don't match). They actually *do* line up; I was just too sloppy in Paint, lol.

    If I am being stupid, just tell me. If I need to set the bar to "things that don't make me puke" instead of "things that make me smile," then give it to me straight. I promise I can take it. :-D