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Bedroom without windows

7 years ago

TRYING TO CREATE A 11ft BY 14ft by 8 ft high BEDROOM USING PANELING ON THE WALLS. NO WINDOWS EITHER! Any ideas?

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  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    No need to shout...

    I wouldn't use panelling in such a small space. Just paint it all a nice light colour, use daylight bulbs, and add artwork.

    Beyond that, we'll need to know who will occupy this room (child, boarder, etc).

    In some areas this is not a legal bedroom so keep that in mind.

  • 7 years ago

    Is this a room already or one you are planning to add by putting up paneling in the garage or some other area of the house? Check to see if you need a building permit for your area. In my area you would need one.

    BTW, qam is right and lindsey are both right.

  • 7 years ago

    "Is this a room already or one you are planning to add by putting up paneling"

    Good catch Denita, I didn't even consider that possibility.

  • 7 years ago

    Not sure what will this 'room' be used for. With panelling, you will not get any soundproofing.

    - Use acoustic barriers available commercially, if you want to reduce noise. If using these, cover the panel with tall curtain or wallpaper.

    - Paint ceiling with same color as the walls or a shade lighter. Use light wall color. If using wallpaper, use tall stripes. It elongates the room making it look bigger than it really is.

    - Use small sized furniture with exposed legs. If possible, buy transperent table.

    - Don't clutter the floor with furniture , instead use solid wall (hopefully there are 2) for hanging shelves etc. for storage. Hang them high so that the floor is visible.

    - Use tall mirrors if available to create the illusion of a bigger room

    - On one wall use a poster/wall-stickers of a window to create illusion of it.

    All design dilemma are an opportunities to show your creativity, so have fun and good luck!

    Please post pictures when your project is done.



  • 7 years ago

    Sorry sc22 I have to disagree on two points: using mirrors and using faux windows. I find both to be very disconcerting in a small space, as I repeatedly expect to see out the window!

  • 7 years ago

    No windows ??? Sounds more like a “panic” room or a prison cell than a bedroom ...


  • 7 years ago

    I have used these techniques and they worked very well, so to each their own lindsey.

  • 7 years ago

    Yes, of course! The person using the room is the most important (only?) one to consider :)

  • 7 years ago

    is this a joke for comments? paneling really? why would you want a bedroom without a window? you can use it for anything you want but without a window it CANNOT be marketed as a bedroom for resale because of the fire codes. to be called a bedroom it also needs a closet. 11'X14' is a decent size bedroom I've seen much smaller.

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    7 years ago

    Iagree about the window for sure and I have never undestood the rule about a closet there are literelly 1000s of homes with wardrobes instead of a closet.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Checking with a national appraiser website, there is no rule about a built in closet.

    Egress window, yes.

    Door, yes.

    Not walking through a bedroom to get to a bedroom, yes.

    Built in closet - no.

    However, many real estate agents persist in stating that the closet must be built in. I say that the appraisers are right on this point - no built in closet is required to make it a bedroom.

  • 7 years ago

    Denita a closet may not be required in your area. here in montana you do need a closet to call it a bedroom. older buildings are grandfather in to codes unless major remodeling/changes are done..

    1. Dwelling unit – Housing shall meet the following requirements associated with decent living space:

    2. Living room
      1. Least dimension shall be 11’-6” and appropriately sized for anticipated

      household size.
      2. Must have window (or glass patio door) to exterior for natural lighting.

    3. Primary or Master bedroom
      1. Least Dimension shall be 10’-0”
      2. Least square footage shall be 115 sq. ft.
      3. Window to exterior for natural lighting.
      4. Closet (5 lineal ft. of net rod/shelf length).
      5. Door and walls to ceiling for privacy.
      6. Exception: Efficiency Dwelling Unit/Single Room Occupancy (SRO)

    4. Secondary bedroom(s) 1. Least dimension 9’-6”.

      2. Least square footage shall be 100 sq. ft. 3. Window to exterior for natural lighting. 4. Closet (4 lineal ft. of net rod/shelf length) 5. Door and walls to ceiling for privacy.

      6. Exception: Efficiency Dwelling Unit/Single Room Occupancy (SRO)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    ^Reading the above, it doesn't sound like a built-in closet is required in your jurisdiction either, just a hanging clothes storage solution with minimum rod lengths :)

    For example, you could have a PAX unit in the room and it would satisfy the requirement. Maybe even a portable clothes hanging rack like below as long as it meets the lineal ft requirement for hanging rods.

    It would be an interesting question to ask your building department to see what they say about portable storage or a PAX type unit. IME where most people fail to meet the bedroom guidelines in my area is on the min required dimensions, the window and the walking through one bedroom to get to another bedroom.

    First link to a PAX system

    https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S29128442/

    80 Inch Dual Bar Chrome Adjustable Garment Rack · More Info

  • 7 years ago

    Here in the Rockies, we have a "4 bedroom" house, but because only one bedroom has a real closet, we are taxed as a 1 bedroom house.

    I think a bedroom without a window is a terrible idea.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    sorry Denita but I think its a stretch to call the picture you posted as a closet. temporary, rolling, more useful in a laundry room, hanging clothes storage it is

    the link to the pax system could probably pass if you were to permanently attach it to the wall

    closet | ˈkläzət | noun1 chiefly North American a cupboard or wardrobe, especially one tall enough to walk into. • a small room, especially one used for storing things or for private study. • dated short for water closet.


  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    @Cheryl, we will have to agree to disagree. I'm in Florida and although walk-in closets are common, not all closets are walk-in closets particularly in the older homes.

  • 7 years ago
    In my area, bedrooms require an egress window and a smoke detector. Closets are traditional but not required. Also, size is minimum dimension 7 feet with minimum of 70 sq ft for single occupant, 100 sq ft for double