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dsl wiring old vs new?

7 years ago

got new dsl service. have not used phone line for 10 yrs.

had comcast phone before

am getting 4mbs download when i should get 10mbs

tech is coming to check speed at junction box outside

line from street to house is buried and 40yrs old

junction box is 40 yrs old

tech said checking inside wiring is not free.

should i run a new cable from outside box thru wall into service panel area which is 4' and just place modem there? modem is wireless. dont need inside wiring in house. we dont have phone service

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  • 7 years ago

  • 7 years ago

    Is this a filter?

  • 7 years ago
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    watched a few videos online about dsl wiring. guess the stuff in the box is normal. the dsl was working on 06/07 evening. at 3mbs. i called tech 06/08 morning about speed and they said there was an outage that morning. i went home at 5pm and it was still 3mbs. today i moved modem to another room and got a red dsl light. no signal. moved modem back to 1st room and got a blinking green dsl light. tech now says he is unsure of issue. tech is coming on 06/11 to check outside signal? but wont change NIB box to new style if it is not absolutely necessary.

  • 7 years ago

    Outside box is just a distribution point. No need for it to be changed, you shouldnt see any benefit. Test the outside wiring, and while he’s there, ask if he can test the one point where your modem is at to ensure its properly cabled to let you know where to go from there.

    If the modem. Is also your wireless router, you want it located as close to the center of your house for the best coverage.

  • 7 years ago
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    the big wire G is ground lug? the H wire is lead into house? and the S wire is the feed from street? both H and S are tucked behind the box and i assume the H wire goes thru a hole inside house? where or how does the S wire go out to the street if it is tucked in behind the box? the only lead that goes down to the ground is the big G wire. we have buried service out to the street

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    large lead is feed from street. the 2 terminals on green block are my pair to house. both of the smaller whitish cables are separate leads into house. thats why they are spliced together. the wht/org and org/wht jumpers are the feed from source. that is where i would attach my new cat5 cable to go into house to my modem location. which may be only 5' in my case.

  • 7 years ago

    I'd use plenum rated cat6 if I were you. Future proof yourself if you're going through the work of putting it through walls.

  • 7 years ago

    I'll be interested to hear if this gets fixed and if so, how.

  • 7 years ago
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    moved modem into kitchen this morning and used that phone jack. modem works.

    tech just came. he was in driveway when i got home. he said it should be 10mbs according to his test rig in truck which was looking at my setup

    he said modem is set to go wireless out of box and that affects speed?

    we ran cable to computer from modem and turned off wireless and got 9mbs

    turned wireless back on and it is 8mbs appx?

    why it did not work on friday/sat and now it works today? and is faster?

    he cut lead to 2nd "zone" in house as we do not have phone service and said removing that amount of wiring of 1/2 house might help speed a bit now

    he said new cable will make no difference for my 10mbs speed range

  • 7 years ago

    Did you try from your kitchen before?

  • 7 years ago

    i have post in electrical wiring?

    put modem in spare room. worked 3mbs

    moved to room closer to NIB no signal. red dsl light

    moved back to spare room. blinking green dsl light. trying to make connection

    moved to kitchen .it works did not test speed

    moved back to spare room today. works. 8mbs speed

    modem is wired to desktop. wireless is on as i have ipad and cell phone

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    Unless one of the wireless connections is in use and consuming capacity, I've never heard of simply switching the Wifi signal on and off influencing a wired connection. That hardware should have capacity for several multiples of the throughput it's handling.

    Is it a phone company modem and router or combined box? If so, I'd consider getting your own equipment. Or turn off the router part of the box and use it only for a modem and get your own router. Be careful that you know what you're doing, you have to turn off DHCP on the telcom router. Done wrong, you'll put a spanner into the operation of the network and may bring it to a halt. No permanent damage, you'd just have to back track, undo what was done and do it correctly.

    I remember when I had a sluggish DSL connection, the phone company told me to expect no more than around 85% of "advertised" capacity, that 10-20% was used for "overhead" and was unavailable for content. That's kind of where you seem to be. Funny they said that then, because now that I have a pretty fast cable connection operating above billed specs (~140 down, 15 up) there doesn't seem to be any overhead consumption at all.

  • 7 years ago

    I do no streaming. Don't need 220mbs from Comcast. But I hate a $200 bill for Internet/cable. So, we are trying dsl/directv for now. I can get 60mbs from Comcast for $66. But than Comcast said cable alone is 95. Than 3 days later it is 129 and today it is 180??? They are raising it daily since I dropped Internet. Dish is installed tomorrow. And bleep comcast

  • 7 years ago

    Getting high speed internet from Dish?

  • 7 years ago

    No, he's getting it form dsl (in post name) which is likely the phone company like centurylink or something.


    @stoveguy, Yes, unbundled services are more expensive then bundled. They always have been, and always will be. Here's the thing with Comcast and others, their customer service and retention agents are in fact sales reps. They get commissions on what they sell you, and take hits on anything you drop or get a price reduction on. The better sales person they are, and the more they sell, the more they may be willing to get you the better price because they have more room to negotiate. If you don't like their price, call back and you'll get a different price form another agent. You can also make a deal with one, and call back and get a better reduction from the next person so each agent only takes a small hit.

    I can't say I'm a huge fan of their tactics, but if you know the game, you can get some pretty decent deals with minimal efforts. I currently pay $180 with triple pay (blast internet, cable with hbo & starz, and a home phone that the wife insists on). Some pay less than that, but many pay more so I'm ok with where I'm at. I am on a 2 year contract, so a month before my contract ends, I start the process again.

    I tried the DSL deal once, but couldn't live with the slower speeds available in my area especially when working from home, and don't want to deal with a dish. My cabling is buried to the house, so I've had may be 5 service interruptions in the 9 years I've lived in this house which I feel is pretty respectful. Your mileage may vary.

  • 7 years ago
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    I have had Comcast internet service for the last 7-8 years and my service and inquiry experiences have always be satisfactory. I had DSL before that (Comcast was building out my neighborhood with newer equipment and internet wasn't previously available) and the experience was disappointing. The DSL service was better than nothing but that was exactly the choice I faced - DSL or nothing.

    I pay a supplement to Comcast for extra speed but by having a "bundle" that includes TV (which I don't use or even have connected), I save about $10/month. The pricing strategies they use are what they are, the competing companies all do the same.

    The service I get is a higher priority to me than the price I pay and for now both are acceptable. I know others have different needs and views.

  • 7 years ago
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    internet alone is 66 plus 10 for modem at 60mbs from comcast. dish has to be less than 100/mo? its 100/mo for 1st yr for dsl/dish and 150 in 2nd yr. than back to comcast. wish i could get wife to try internet alone with streaming services.

  • 7 years ago

    Buy your own modem, you'll be money ahead in less than a year.

  • 7 years ago

    still working today. 10mbs. dt is working too. have 3 mo hbo/showtime/starz but starz was not enabled yesterday. funny, i thought they gave it away as a throwaway. but tech had to turn it on.

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