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Refinished red oak staircase all in Jacobean stain and hate it! HELP.

8 years ago

Hi there,


My 40 year red oak old staircase needed to be redone. Previous colour had red and orange tones that I wanted to get rid off. It all started because I wanted to match my island stain(wood is walnut with a 50/50 pecan/clear stain). That turned beautiful, but on red oak it looked too washed out.

So, after a few stain sampling, I used Jacobean stain for all; threads, spindles, banister, risers, etc.. I was pressed by a few folks and time, however against my better judgement (gut feeling) I knew in my heart I was going to regret it. One sample on one thread does not give you the whole picture. I really thought that the matched with the island and the Jacobean stairs would work, but now I hate how dark it looks. My husband loves it, but I don’t. Ofcourse, this cost me an arm and a leg, but I have to fix it. As a comprise, I explained to my husband there are only 2 solution; First, is a runner to break up the monotone and 2nd it’s to paint, risers and spindles white.


See pic, before and after.. HELP!

Comments (52)

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you for your vote of confidence. I will take into consideration your suggestion. That’s what my husband said as well; “After 3 months, if I still don’t like it, then you can paint it”. Time to think ..

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    IMO the spindles and risers in white would be better but I garee wait before doing anything else.I am wondering why you have a walnut island which is a very beutiful natural wood and then you stained it , that makes no sense to me.

    lina02 thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks curlycook and threers. You both gave me sound and practical advice and suggestions. No artwork yet. Still waiting to move back home. This project has surpassed its timeline and patience; especially for my DH. He is getting tired and restless to go back. Kids are having fun at papous’ (Greek for grandpa) house.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    I have to agree that I think it looks beautiful, but what you think is what matters. However, I totally agree that you should give yourself some time after you move your decor back in. Wait 2-3 weeks, if you still don't like it, I vote for the runner. Really, either way I think a runner would look amazing on those stairs.
    lina02 thanked Kitchen Tune-up Zeeland, Sales & Design
  • 8 years ago

    Hi Patricia, thanks for the advise. I stained the natural dark walnut since I saw it it at the cabinetmakers showroom and it looked beautiful. I didn’t know better..

  • 8 years ago
    Looks great as is although a runner could be beautiful.
    lina02 thanked bradley_amber
  • 8 years ago
    The staircase is beautiful! Change is always so shocking I had to make myself take a deep breath and live with a couple of my choices for ten days to realize my choice was right. If after a week or two you still hate it I would suggest getting some white craft paper that you can cut and tape in place to cover your stair risers to see if that is a change for the better.
    lina02 thanked Diane
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Diane for the suggestion. My best friend Jojo, gave me the same exact advice.

  • 8 years ago
    You are welcome, and your friend Jojo sounds like a good friend.
    lina02 thanked Diane
  • 8 years ago

    Seriously? I love it. So elegant. Keep decor simple, clean and peaceful.

    lina02 thanked misspeggy7
  • 8 years ago

    Huge improvement, it looks great. I do not think you need to paint anything. I have painted risers which need to be painted somewhat frequently to look fresh. It is just a big change that you need to get use to.

    lina02 thanked saratogaswizzlestick
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for your honesty. When I was trying to get some inspirational ideas through Houzz or Decorpad, most of my searches would lead me to pics where the stairs had white spindles and risers. They seem more elegant and stately. However, as mentioned in my earlier comments, my DH definitely prefers stained stairs vs paint. He thinks it’s blasphemy to paint wood. Any case, maybe in time I will grow on me.

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you all for your support. It is truly appreciated. Sinerely

  • 8 years ago

    Well, you know those old Spanish homes that are so cool? I lived in Santa Barbara and believe me, it definitely looks like that Santa Barbara style Mediterranean look. One of the most beautiful looks in my humble opinion!

    lina02 thanked inabunker
  • 8 years ago
    It looks great! (No to paint.)
    lina02 thanked annied75
  • 8 years ago
    It looks beautiful and I am usually someone who wants everything white and light and who doesn’t like e dark colors...

    Agree with poster above, makes me think of some Spanish Californian home I saw (Would work even better with crisper white walls )

    Give it a month, see what it would look like with your furniture. Repaint only if you are still unhappy after some time
    lina02 thanked N LC
  • 8 years ago

    So beautiful! Imo, if you paint the risers then you need to do the skirt. I would not.

    If you really need to paint...do the balusters only. It will be just enough. But take care. My dd did this and the color is bleeding through the paint on the balusters.

    lina02 thanked ILoveRed
  • 8 years ago

    Paint the spindles and risers white or paint only the spindles and put a runner on the steps. A good polish on the handrail will help the look as well


    lina02 thanked Jill Hall Garner
  • 8 years ago

    I've never seen Jacobean stain look good on flat-sawn wood or veneer, as your risers are. The grain is just too wild. Quartersawn wood looks okay, but Jacobean is really tricky (and IMHO, doesn't ever look real).

    lina02 thanked tatts
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I like the stain color on the treads, newel post and banister, but the most classic look is for the balusters (spindles), risers and skirting to be white.

    lina02 thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • 8 years ago

    I'm guessing that you haven't put your top coat of poly on yet, and that may make a difference in the way you feel about it.

    lina02 thanked My3dogs ME zone 5A
  • 8 years ago
    Sorry you are unhappy. You have lots of honest, positive reinforcement from Houzzers, and I hope you give Jacobean some time to prove it was the right choice. What struck me is the great match with the brick wall in the next room and that you definitely need artwork for that wide staircase wall.
    lina02 thanked charaj00
  • 8 years ago
    Hi,
    Is it the dark color, or the flatness (not shiny) of the Jacobean stain that bothers you?
    lina02 thanked marylut
  • 8 years ago

    Hi Marylut, I think it’s both. I called the company to correct at least the flat finish. I do agree with you that its flat. It does require to be buffed and a second coat of varnish. The first coat that was applied was satin, so maybe it needs to be gloss instead. Thanks again for your comment and input.


  • 8 years ago
    Yes to gloss ! No to white paint ! It's very elegant the way it is ! Good luck !
    lina02 thanked silviakunst
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    No to high gloss--satin or semi-gloss looks best IMHO.

    lina02 thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • 8 years ago

    It looks really flat. Does it need another coat of stain?



    lina02 thanked mzloolue
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Get a new chandelier to take your attention off the staircase. It looks fabulous, really.

    lina02 thanked leelee
  • 8 years ago

    Hi Diana, and all, thanks for your recent comments. The company has given me one coat of a satin gloss. And it does look flat to me as well. However, it does not show that a satin gloss was applied..

    IMHO as a client its up to the us to find a solution when the project is not exactly as envisioned. The sample stain is not enough to determine when applied on a whole area, such as floors or stairs in my case. These issues need to be accountable by the professional experts by purposing solutions or suggestion to their client on how to resolve them.

    I appreciate everyone comments, however, it is getting more confusing on whether to use high gloss or not. sigh!

  • 8 years ago

    The sheen of the stairs should be similar to the sheen on the other flooring. We really can't see much of your floors since they're covered with paper. High gloss would call more attention to the stairs.

    lina02 thanked leelee
  • 8 years ago

    If you paint the risers white you will see scuff marks. It looks incredibly elegant. Move on to another project.


    lina02 thanked wh916
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Paint the risers white and add a low-pile runner. You won't get scuff marks. Or don't paint them, but still add a runner. Runners not only add softness and elegance, but they are a safety factor--bare wood on stairs is very dangerous, especially with children and the elderly.

    As far as it looking "flat" I like it. It looks like authentic wood, with an oil finish. So classy!

    BTW, there is a difference between "satin" and "semi-gloss." Satin is less shiny, semi-gloss more shiny still, and high gloss the shiniest. I would never do high gloss on residential floors.

    But really, don't do another coat of stain--you will lose the look of the grain, and it will be way too dark.

    lina02 thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • 8 years ago
    Satin finish is lovely, but I would do at least two coats and three is best imo. A single coat of finish on an area with a lot of traffic will wear quickly and require remediation sooner rather than later. As to white risers this is our third home with them and we have had an occasional scuff or black mark that is easily removed with a damp paper towel and a bit of non abrasive cleaner.
    lina02 thanked Diane
  • 8 years ago

    If you are doing poly, and want a satin finish, make the first 2 coats gloss and the last coat satin. gloss is much tougher than satin and wears better (protects the wood better).

    lina02 thanked tatts
  • 8 years ago

    I would consider a runner just for safety's sake. Wood stairs, as stated, can be very dangerous.

    lina02 thanked katinparadise
  • 8 years ago
    I LOVE it! I don’t think you should do anything unless you want to add a runner for safety reasons as another Houzzer suggested.
    lina02 thanked Deanna
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Deanna for your comments. I seriously considering a light runner. A very very light one. Thanks again to all and for your continued support.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I would not paint anything. It looks beautiful. Maybe a runner because it feels good and is quieter. Paint will cheapen the look IMO.

    lina02 thanked Kaillean (zone 8, Vancouver)
  • 8 years ago

    I think you should paint the spindles to bring them out of hiding and get a runner so the whole stairway won't look so dark.

    lina02 thanked User
  • 8 years ago
    Looks great, beautiful staircase. I sticks out because it’s empty. Once furnishings and decor are in it’ll look just right. Your walls are white, so the contrast with dark stain is sharp. A darker beige or cream wall color will blend the dark stairs better.
    lina02 thanked Olga Kramar
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Until you have a polyurethane seal on it, you won't see the beauty of it. The light will dance off of it. It is a great stain job! NO streaks or runs of stain.. Very expert work.

    lina02 thanked redsilver
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Yes, tatts is correct about using high gloss first, then finishing it off with satin. My flooring contractor did that and not only does the wood kitchen floor look great, it wears great as well!

    lina02 thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • 7 years ago

    I think it's beautiful. However, a runner may just do the trick for you :0)

    lina02 thanked Alisha Carey
  • 7 years ago
    The risers look to be wood. I would only paint the risers white if they were the same as the walls. I would do a search for staircases here and see if you would like the spindles white.
    lina02 thanked blondelle
  • 7 years ago

    Not a Pro.


    I love your staircase!


    I am not a fan of runners, I know crazy, but I am not. I would put everything in place first, large art, etc. that bring color from the other rooms to that space and then decide if you if you need a runner.


    I would not paint your spindles or risers.

    lina02 thanked njmomma
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    It looks beautiful! I would give it time as well! You're probably just not used to it yet. I agree with njmomma. Definitely, would not paint the spindles and risers.

    lina02 thanked Stecki Construction
  • 7 years ago

    Its gorgeous! So much better than the before pic. If you don't love it in a few months you can always add a runner (which might be a good idea for safety anyway.) I think you just need time to adjust. It looks timeless and classic.

    lina02 thanked RenoGirl
  • 7 years ago
    Not sure if a runner would lay flat with the curve of the stairs. Maybe someone can Photoshop the spindles in white for you.
    lina02 thanked blondelle
  • 6 years ago

    It’s May 2020..I just came upon this.. With the exception of maybe using a matte or satin poly..I truly hope you left it ..it’s Gorgeous!

  • 6 years ago

    Hi Jccalabrese, thank you for your compliment. Yes it did leave it and used 20% finish. After, a few days and filling the home with added layers such as, lighting and pictures, it looks great. Thanks again.