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Seeking advice for kitchen backsplash please!

7 years ago

Hello amazing houzz-ers! We are in the final stages of redoing our kitchen and I am stuck on the backsplash. I feel like I have seen so many tile stores and options that I can't tell which side is up anymore. I love the look and feel of natural stone, but we love to cook and oil/tomato + heat doesn't mix with natural stone no matter how much you seal it, I'm told. Plus all the pretty marble backsplashes I see seem to clash with my busy granite countertops (pic of marble on my counter is below). There is a warm-grey tone to these countertops that I didn't notice until I tried to put cooler-greys and whites against it. Cool-grey doesn't look quite right. I'm not a big fan of white subway tile, but I'm coming around - hubby originally wanted this. I hate how plain and uninteresting it looks, but maybe that's what this kitchen needs.

We have two front-runners right now, but I don't really love either. The first is plain black slate, but again, it's that natural stone that will probably absorb oil splattered on it. I'm not sure if the black would overpower everything else (originally we were thinking white backsplash). I also don't know what I would do with the section above the stove - I'd probably want to put something different there, somehow. The second is a tan-ish moroccan/arabesque which seems to match, and it's ok-enough but I don't love it (plus this particular tile has a crackle finish that I dislike and it breaks easily). I put two pictures of this tile under different light below.

Is there anyone that has some great advice? I sure could use it!

Thanks so much!




*Apparently asking the system to upload photos is akin to asking it to calculate the next NASA launch...so I'll just *try* to put pics in the comments.

Comments (98)

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    HU,,,I know they aren't cheap, but I used the Cle zellige tiles for my floor inlay. (in black though) I love them.

    I'm actually considering doing the white for my own backsplash. i have a light gray quartz countertop.

    can you post a pic of your kitchen so we can see?

    Also, make sure the bulbs in your lights are 4000K.. ditto for under cabinet lighting. anything below 3500K will give a yellow hue

  • 4 years ago

    Hi @Beth H. : Thank you for responding! Here are some pretty bad photos and we are obviously in the works, but the floating shelf wall and the entire range wall will be tiled from top to bottom. I just ordered the Cle Tile sample of Weathered White. I wanted to try the sea salt too but they didn't have any. These slabs were much whiter at the showroom at Bedrosian's, I'm literally feel like they picked up the wrong slabs for me. My fabricator said another client said the same thing about the same slabs...... I'm attaching a small pantry area that would have the same tile once decided as well.


    Where you see a barn door leaning, a tall oven/micro combo cabinet is suppose to go there, issues with that, still on order. And the hood has a custom casing with a matching wood trim.




  • 4 years ago

    @Beth H. : Here's another picture that has better lighting to show the off-white contrast....


  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    i see what you mean. they almost look taupe colored. I'm guessing you didn't view the entire slab before they cut it?? when you picked your slab at the yard, did they put your name on it? how did that part work?

    is the island getting the same thing? love the wood. I think you could offset the color a bit if you do something diff on the island (if it isn't too late

    the good news is I think the weathered white will work. I have a sample of it.

    I like this layout


    what's going on the floors?

    I think you'll be fine once everything is in, so don't fret too much. everyone always gets like this during halfway.

    too bad you didn't go w/real super white. I have it in my bathroom and love it. as you can see, it's not a super bright white. has a lot of grays in it


  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I absolutely love the CLE weathered white tiles. Adding kitchen photos but they really don’t do it justice. They are beautiful. Click on the picture to see them better.






    Hope this helps!

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    hem, those look great.

    I have a sample of them but they appear more pink (top left one) (these are thick. 5/8", so keep that in mind)


    HU, wanted to show you this. It's London Sky quartz w/marble backsplash. LondonSky is off-white like yours. (you can google it) A lot of people complain it looks dingy next to whites.


    Pratt and Larson has these shades. might look nice w/your countertop



    another pic of the weathered white like a-hem has.


  • 4 years ago

    We also used CLE tea ceremony in the small bathroom. They look a lot more blue than they do online. I liked the color on the site better but we still like these. There is a mirror up now but this pic showed the tiles better.


  • 4 years ago

    @HU-48397867, Try out the grout colors...white, gray and off white. That will tie in your countertops in with the cabinets. We went with white grout and we really like it. My tile guy had us put the grout powder between the tiles to visualize. It was more realistic than the plastic pieces. I put your picture next to our tile and I think you’ll really like it! Good luck... keep us posted.

  • 4 years ago

    Hello! Wow so I haven't seen this thread in awhile! Glad it could help a few folks out, hope it didn't make things harder for anyone!

    To answer the grout question...we used avalanche (Maipei). As far as how we like it, It may be my favorite thing about my kitchen. I absolutely love it! It has suffered tomato sauce splashes, red wine spills, and who knows what other cooking disasters have landed on it, nothing sinks in and if I miss something cleaning, the color variation hides it all well.

    I don't know how to describe the color. My husband thinks it's slightly cooler, I think it has a slight warm tone to it. It's almost like there's so much color variation that it adapts to whatever you put it with. I love it so much that I wanted it for our pending bathroom reno, but hubby said he might divorce me if I chose $20/sq/ft tile! Ha! In all seriousness, I love it. I'm no interior decorator though, you probably don't want me telling you what would work in your kitchen (especially based on pictures). I do recommend spending the time and money to get (several) samples and matching it with your counters/paint before investing in this kind of tile. It's too expensive to get wrong. A drywall backsplash for a month or two while you decide won't hurt anything.

    Good luck!!

  • 4 years ago

    Oh one more thing...as for lighting - I 100% agree that the color temp makes a huge difference. My hubby insists on 3K LED lights - "soft warm" or "bright white" or something in the middle. He doesn't like anything too warm (he says 2700 is too yellow) or too cool (5000/cool-white/daylight...he says those look like a McDonalds...ha!). I recommend trying out different bulbs and make sure it looks right in your space. Especially check it out at night.

  • 4 years ago

    @a_hem I love your kitchen! Can you tell me the name & manufacturer of your countertop?? Thanks!!!

  • 4 years ago

    @smitha93, I purchased from Daltile. It's Carrara marble. Yes, I went with marble and I still love it after a year. There are many etchings on my island, but you can really only see them when you stand at the sink. From the rest of the kitchen I don't notice them at all. And, knock on wood, no stains. I found a few pieces that I loved at Daltile. They had a gorgeous dark blue vein down from corner to corner on the island; it's more drastic than most carrara. Hope that helps!

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Sara, 3K bulbs are still too dim/yellow for a kitchen. They will cast a yellow hue over everything. it's hardly a step up from 2700!

    You need 4K in the kitchen. it's not blue. 5K is more cool and blue, 4K is like natural white. not too yellow, not too blue.




  • 4 years ago

    @Beth H my husband and I ordered the zellige tile from riad tile in the color snow (same as the cle seal salt zellige tile just cheaper/ sqft) I am in between 2 different grout colors. Do you recommend Mapei Avalanche or White? I should mention it is going on our back kitchen wall where very little light hits. Our kitchen has calcatta honed marble countertops but this "bar" area has a walnut butcher block countertop with white oak open shelving.


    Thank you in advance!!

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    avalanche is the whitest white. There really isn't a huge diff between the two.

    If the tile isn't a snow white color, I'd go w/the regular white


  • 4 years ago

    Hi everyone! Sorry, remodeling during a pandemic and pregnant is CRAZY! it's been a while but we finally finished our project and moved in about two months ago. We actually went with cle tile's weathered white and for grout color what Cle had recommended was biscuit or frost and we went with frost. The way that we did it was our tiler told me to take the grout powder to the tile and not the plastic samples. NIGHT AND DAY. but what we also did because maipei was pretty cheap grout compared to Bedrosian ones, I bought two colors, the white and the frost, and he made samples for me. I'll need to go through my pictures and post the samples he made.


    But long story short, I LOVE OUR BACKSPLASH! it definitely was a blessing in disguise. Frost is perfect for us. and I just love how it all turned out. Although, buyer beware, the hand made tiles were a pain. cle tile sent us, I want to say about 40% broken, chipped and discolored tiles. On a hot summer day, my husband and I had to go through 2500 sq ft of boxes of tiles, lay them out during a heat wave and unhealthy air conditions (CA fires) to lay them out and take pictures and send them to Cle so they can send us replacements. IT WAS SUFFERING. and I was and am pregnant. but they have a strict 24-36hr report window so we had to do it quick. but at the end of the day they came through. but even the replacement boxes had a ton of broken or bad paint ones. I literally still have several boxes of broken tile stacked in my garage...


    I will try to dig up some photos tonight and post if anyone is interested. weathered white subway is the star of our kitchen for sure. oh and our tiler said where the holes are in the tile, the best thing to do instead of grouting it is to find a matching nail polish and just dab it... makes sense, but I haven't tried.

  • 4 years ago

    @HU-48397867making samples would be a great idea! A lot of people are using frost for weathered white and we almost went with that tile but our back wall gets very little light so wanted something a bit lighter! Thank you and @Beth H. : for yalls help!


    I think we are going to go with White grout but have them do a sample first!

  • 4 years ago

    @HU-48397867 Yes, please post pictures!!! I am trying to decide whether or not to pull the trigger on weathered white or go with a safer option of sea salt. I'm so torn!

  • 4 years ago

    Beth H
    Do you have any recommendations on quartz countertop name that goes well with cle weathered white tile for backsplash?

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    rhonda, Just about any type of quartz will look good w/that. look at Silestone-Eternal collection.

    But the cabinets and flooring will have to be taken in account too.

    The Silestone Charcoal would be similar to this one (all of these are weathered white)


    this looks really close to Silestone Statuario, or Jasmine




    this looks like Brittanica






    looks like plain white on these two



    Emily Henderson, not sure what the countertops are, but that gray looks stunning w/the soft blue


  • 4 years ago

    Beth what do you think this one is? Silestone? Also what name do you think it is?

  • 4 years ago

    I’m assuming the Charcoal you mentioned above was the black countertop.

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    It could be. this is the Silestone Eternal charcoal in a matte finish. (comes polished too)


    I have the same countertop except in the gray (Serena)


    Silestone Eternal collection


    the one you circled in red could be Cambria Britannica, or even something like this Statuarietto quartz:


    or, maybe a Calacatta Quartz


    they have this same type of look but w/black veins. called Calacatta black. it's so pretty!

    this is just one brand. they carry one at my stone place that the Flip or Flop people used in one of their shows.





    there are so many on the market. Take some of the tiles, one of the doors to your cabinets, and a sample of your floor with you when you look at countertops. any large tile/stone place ought to have tons to look at.




    This is a porcelain slab that looks like marble. It's really pretty in person. Porcelain slabs have come a long way


  • 4 years ago

    Beth
    I saw some of the porcelain slabs, they are gorgeous. A lot of them have a very high sheen which I was not looking for. Was trying to go for a little bit more of a matte or similar to what a typical quartz countertop looks like. But I do agree that the porcelain is stunning and looks almost identical to natural stone.

  • 4 years ago

    Beth I wonder what the name of that porcelain slab is you posted a pic of. Do you have an idea?

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    rhonda, that was a calacatta look porcelain. it wasn't any shinier than regular polished stone. I know they do make some porcelain slabs in a matte finish.


    This one is Neolith.


    This particular stone supplier is in Anaheim, cal. called State College Distributors. It's mainly tile/flooring, but they do have a yard w/limited slabs of all types.

    these are some other porcelain slabs
    Infinity, Renoir





  • 4 years ago

    Beth

    Wow these are gorgeous!!!! I am in Pennsylvania, would have to find a slab yard that has a selection like this. The one I was at a few weeks back had porcelain slabs but the selection was nothing like this!

  • 4 years ago

    Do you know if they are prone to staining, etching, scratching etc?

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    it's no different than a porcelain tile. that's all it is. A giant porcelain tile. installed w/mortar and set to a substrate on your countertop or island. Edges can chip because they are vulnerable. As for scratching, like what? It's prob better than marble but not as hearty as granite? Even I scratched my granite! If you mean will rubbing a fork tine across the surface damage it, I'd say prob not. If you used your butcher knife to mince onions on it, maybe. lol.

    just get some cutting boards and whatever you get will be fine. I always keep two on mine. one on the island, and one next to my stove on the perimeter. I always use them.

    two of them piled up here, but I have a diff one next to stove top.

  • 4 years ago

    What is this slab on your island? Porcelain?

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    rhonda, calacatta marble



  • 4 years ago

    Beth it’s beautiful! I was looking into white Carrara marble as an option. I know it’s the “softest” of marbles but I like the look and it’s less $$.
    This slab is very pretty!

  • 4 years ago

    What a great thread all! Saving/following this one. I’ve been to State College Distributors which I found watching Christina on the Coast. Terrific selection! Thank you for posting all these great photos!

  • 4 years ago

    Seeing the photos of Silestone shows how far it has come over the years. It looks amazing in the photos @BethH posted. The options for countertops has really grown.

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Jill, yes. She and Tarek go there. I've been working w/George (you've seen him on their shows too) for 15 years there. great tile selection.

  • 4 years ago

    Beth H.: my sister and I went to State College Distributors today, massive traffic each way, but it was well worth it. We found a perfect field tile to go with an Arizona Tile marble mosaic floor for her bath reno and I finally found a large sample of the Rewards Meadow Collection Buttercup that I’ve been searching for for months. Well worth the trip. Everyone is so helpful there.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Jill, oh nice! You must live out in LA? yeah, easter traffic is tough today. I'm only 15 miles from them so it's not bad.

    The selection is amazing, right?

  • 4 years ago

    This is the Arizona Tile - Hex Grigio we’re using for flooring in her bath. The 5 x 5 is Habitat Granite that we’ll use for field. Both the dark grey in the flooring and the field read a little blue in person. Now we are deciding on the baseboard tile - similar grey marble like the lighter grey in flooring or black or even white. Then we’re going to do a border on top of field w/ 3 x 6 tiles perpendicular to floor. We’re working with a designer at Mission Tile but enjoy doing the recognizance on our own.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    nice. that's a nice charcoal color. you have bardiglio marble along w/the carrara. it's a blue/charcoal.

    you say baseboard tile? so, no regular baseboard?

    I have a marble floor and did a black marble baseboard tile. Is that what you mean?


  • 3 years ago

    Came across this thread! My cabinets are white dove and I'm torn between going with the sea salt zellige or the weathered white. Does the sea salt still have variation? Hard to tell from just a one sample piece. Countertops will be quarts attached photo. thank you!!



  • PRO
    3 years ago

    all of them are varied. look on the tile description. it should have a V rating. V-1, 2,3,or 4. I believe 4 is the most varied.

  • 3 years ago

    Hi everyone! I saw some comments talking about grout colors for riads snow zellige. We just started installing our backsplash and am between white or avalanche grout. I feel like the zellige is really pulling gray and I'm re thinking my bscjsolash choice! Hoping the grout will help. @Beth H. :




  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @B P do you have a picture with your backsplash grouted and finished? this is snow from riad- right?

  • 3 years ago

    Yes - would love an update - we ordered riad snow white and it looks so grey that I’ve ordered more samples from cle and decided to live with eating the cost and starting over.

  • 3 years ago

    @a_hem - im also looking at a carrara slab from Daltile. Still

    holding up ok? I am also wondering what color you cabinets are?

  • 3 years ago

    @Shiloh S, we actually sold the house last year. But, they were holding up when we sold. They were so beautiful...I miss that kitchen! We had some etching but it was only visible when the sun was shining on the island. I'm considering marble again in our remodel on the current home, but I may try honed this time and we are definitely doing zellige tile backsplash again. It's already purchased. The cabinets were custom. I had painted all my walls and trim in BM Chantilly Lace and wanted the cabinets the same color. When my cabinet maker brought me the sample for Chantilly Lace, the color was off... So, we looked at some other whites to match up the tone of white. Sorry, I don't recall the name. The island and open shelves were walnut.

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you @a_hem! thats very helpful! Did you reorder the westhered white from Cle? I am consiering Snow from Riad if I go with carrara.

  • 3 years ago

    @Shiloh S, I did buy weathered white…this time in the 2x6. I’m going to do them stacked but haven’t decided if I’m doing vertical or horizontal.

  • last year

    Hi all. I’ve been reading thru the thread and have a similar problem as the original poster. Our grey nuevo granite is very busy. We are updating our kitchen to white cabinets (color still tbd) and I’m looking at zellige for the backsplash. Having a hard time as the samples I got from Riad and CLE are very dark so I’m undecided between snow/ salt and natural/ weathered white and also on the shape. We need almost 120 sq so I cant get this wrong. I'm worried about what color and size to pick to ensure it does not look busy.

    (our island is staying espresso, flooring is marazzi american estates in saddle).

    Would appreciate advice please

  • last year

    @Katharina Larson - start your own dilemma with photos of your house. Many people ignore old posts like this one.

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