I don't think there will be a clash problem. They are all on the warm side.

They are all washed out at this time of year. In my garden they are warm white with a touch of pink, pale warm pink, and palest pink-white respectively.

Edited to add: how frightening that I have all 3. I went from 0 to 100 in a very short period of time.

That’s great to hear that you have all 3! How mature are yours? I’m adding a few feet to the sizes on HMF...does that sound about right? Thanks!

Perma, mine are still babies. Mel's has some 4-ft tentacles but they are about the diameter of a pencil. M. Tillier is about 2.5-ft tall and I just got William a week ago.

I think that M. Tillier and William will both become gigantic if they live long enough. M. Tillier may be pruned down to maintain a tolerable size.

Not sure about how large Mel's will get in Florida. We do not have a lot of data on R. wichurana in Florida (he is 1/4 R. wichurana) and Floribundas (he is 1/4 Floribunda) usually need to be grafted to survive so I do not know what size to expect from him or if he will survive more than five years. I am training him to climb up a tree.

I think that even some teas are risky. They are so variable in their backgrounds. Some of them will not do so well. I consider most of them to be experiments except for the ones that show up on more than one "recommended for Florida" list.

I’m doing the same...I’m trying more than I intended to, so that I’ll have some cushion for the ones who don’t like it here. :-)

I’m putting Mel on my swing pergola, so I really hope he settles in. It seems like there were a number of others who’ve had success in hot & humid...just not sure about tons of rain and nematodes.

Thank you Carol! My Mel came from Rose Petals. I was so happy to find him! This area is a very sunny part of the garden. The swing trellis is to the right, and there’s a triangular shape bed next to it. I’m putting blue pea vine on the trellis with Mel. Then Alliance Franco-Russe & Isabella Sprunt in front of the boys, with lavender and several blue-purple salvias. Mixing in a few cream daylilies & variegated liriope. One of my fav palettes is pale yellow, silver, & shades of purples. Crossing my fingers it comes together! :-)

Carol, I might have to put my foot down if it comes to cigars back there. I’ve never been a fan. ;-)

It sounds like a wonderful mix, especially with the companion plants you're contemplating. I have William R. Smith (who is resting right now) and briefly had M. Tillier (wonderful color but fried in my dry heat in 5 minutes).

Perma, that combo sounds perfect! I can hardly wait to see photos. Hint. Hint.

:-) Carol

Perma, I won't worry about anything. It will grow well besides I know you got tons of horse manure so that improves the soil and bring down nermotodes .

I can't wait to see pics as they will grow and bloom. I never pick up my Mel's heritage from Angel gardens yet since January. I have to clear up my two corners. Full of Palmetto plants and they don't give up easily. They are real pain in *_#@5.

Jin