And some leaf pictures.

Got some of the glued together leaves on Amsonia, too. With this guy poking out.

Thank you! I just didn’t think anything (other than the brown kind of army worms) eat Zinnia. Never heard the term leaf tier caterpillar. Going to look that up.

When I lived in the country, in the late summer/fall, my false nettles were full of leaf rollers whose leaves were tied with what looked like large white stitches, just like yours, Iris. I never did ID those cats, but they looked very much like yours.

Sherry

Thank you MissSherry. Maybe going out right before dark I would be able to get a better picture. I tried looking them up last night, didn’t find anything. For now they will go in my “maybe I will figure it out eventually” pile.

..and don't forget about the leaf folder caterpillars!

I might have solved the Amsonia one! Finally... saw these pretty moth today. By looking it up, I found it’s one of the host plants. Not many images of the caterpillars to be found, but what I found looks like a match to me.

unless I am wrong with the moth.

Pretty moth!

Sherry

Thank you, Sherry. Maybe one mystery solved. Just a couple of hundred to go... That includes bees, wasps, flies, bugs and such though. At least I will have something to do over winter.