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Niagara Falls in decline

8 years ago

I noticed my Niagara Falls looking slightly smaller last year. This year it has turned into an average sized hosta. It used to be enormous! I just loved the statement it made. It was spectacular. None of the other hosta in that bed have exhibited any decline. I’m assuming the problem is tree roots. There is a mountain ash in the vicinity. Once a hosta starts to go downhill I’m guessing it won’t recover without intervention on my part. I’m really disappointed because I thought such a large hosta would be able to cope with the tree. There has been no shortage of water here this summer. So it can’t be lack of water causing the problem. What do you think? Could there be some other cause?

Comments (10)

  • 8 years ago

    By outside, we mean outside the drip line of the plant, not near the base. I'd go out a foot or more from the drip line, then do a second cutting just outside the drip line. Gives you a longer time before the tree roots come back.

    north53 Z2b MB thanked dhaven
  • 8 years ago

    dig it up.. and find out whats going on.. underground ... if you cant see a problem ... there is only one answer ....


    i will bet.. you will find 40% hosta roots ... and 60% tree roots ... most likely.. you will no longer be stumped as to the problem ....


    i would move it elsewhere ..... in the 3 to 5 years it takes for the plant to recover to size.. the tree will also be recovering ... and you will be right back where you are ...


    ive done what chazy says .. six of this.. half dozen of the other ... but my way ... you will see the issue ... then you learned something.. and can do other his way ....


    ken

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  • 8 years ago

    Trouble is Ken, it’s a big hosta. I don’t have another spot for it and it looked so good there!



  • 8 years ago
    I had the same thing happen with my War Paint, but I waited too long to move it and now it will take several years to get back the mature look it had.
  • 8 years ago

    If you start the slicing on the side closest to the tree, you will be able to tell if there is a lot of root competition--you can feel the roots being sliced through. If you don't get any resistance, then tree roots probably aren't the issue.

    north53 Z2b MB thanked dhaven
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you dhaven. I would never have thought of that. I’ll go and try that right now.

  • 8 years ago

    Okay. I used my transplanting shovel. The blade is 11 inches long. I can’t say I noticed any resistance when I stepped on it. It penetrated the soil almost the entire depth. At that depth though, I could feel the shovel hitting rocks. The soil is wet gumbo right now. I had a hard time extracting the blade. On the tree side I didn’t feel any roots. On the other side I could hear a few snapping sounds that I assumed were roots from a Russian cypress. But they didn’t offer any resistance. I sliced through them easily. Other hostas are growing around the perimeter of the cypress with no problem. But I would happily get rid of it if it is the issue.

    I guess what I discovered is that the depth of the soil is 10 inches before hitting a base of rocky soil. Should that be a problem?


  • 8 years ago

    10 inches of good soil over a rocky base shouldn't be an issue. But you will want to trim the Russian Cypress roots back. Possibly way back.

    north53 Z2b MB thanked dhaven
  • 8 years ago

    Trouble is Ken, it’s a big hosta.


    ==>>> no big deal.. ive done it by just cutting the roots ... and then 'popping' it out ... and letting it fall right back down ....


    and the only trick here is ... wait for it .... SHARPEN YOUR SHOVEL ... trust me.. it will make a big difference ....


    then all that is left.. is wondering how all the rotting roots will affect the roots ... but i dont recall it ever being an issue ....


    just do something... your choice.. i have no real vested interest in your choice ...


    ken

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