one is a pint and one is bigger? then they have to account for the size change. whenever you cut a percentage of a color, you don't get a lighter color, you get a new color. the same percentage in 5 gallons is going to look different in one pint.

oh, I see what happened. they added 5 times as much. I would have thought they would use the first formula as 1 and then add 4 more . maybe I'm horrible at math and am wrong!

I have no idea. I’m assuming he showed them the picture of what I texted him. I let them paint all day and decided to look at his paint container after they left. Do they usually take the color and multiply it times 5 when they go from a 1 gallon can to a 5 gallon container? I have no idea about paint... when you say they aren’t even close, can you specify??

I've taken a 5 gallon formula and had one gallon mixed (obviously using only a percentage of the 5 gal formula), and it came out exactly the same.

maybe I'm looking at it wrong. they multiplied your formula by 5 to account for the 5 gallons. if you look at your tint numbers, everything is multiplied by 5 from your first container.

if you took your first gallon of paint, and then added 4 more identical 1 gallons, what numbers do you get?

you get:

25

5

40

The new can has :

27

6

40

that's different from the numbers on your can and would account for the odd tint.

i also noticed the number under Extra White is different. (that's the base color.) don't know if that would have an effect.

Either way, it isn't matched correctly.

how far off is the color? can you take a picture

What is the problem with the color of the first paint you put on the wall and the color from the 5 gallon bucket that you put on the wall. What's the difference compared side by side on the same wall?

Is it a deal breaker? Can you say that one is perfect and the other is so far off that you aren't happy with the color at all?????

Unfortunately the painters would probably not start over because their isn’t a discernible difference. I’m at a loss...this is a huge cost and I’m not liking the color at all, it’s the combination of travertine floors and creamy trim and my choppy ceiling line with various archways which is making everything look muddy and not enough pop. The color is just not very attractive, it’s a light blue during the day and a muddy khaki at night. There’s about an hour in late afternoon that I really like the color, but the rest of the time I’m hating it. Do I have them paint the second coat or do I cancel the job entirely and cut my losses? The problem is they have a 6 man crew and they’ve started painting in all the rooms of the house. Nightmare! This is a 10-15,000 job. And not painting the creamy/pinky trim is just killing every color option available.

Ask at the Sherwin Williams store.

That's the way paint acts. It depends on the lighting. Which walls you're looking at, the time of day. It changes dramatically from one wall to the next when you turn the corner.

Can you show pictures of the walls with both paints or even just the latest?

Creamy pink??? where did that come in?

Are you seeing the bare walls or in the context of your home with furniture and lamps in place?

Sounds like you just don't like the color you picked.

Where are pictures of the painted walls?

5 gallons is 5x 1 gallon. Not 4. The scanned bar code reproduces the formula for a larger or a smaller mix. It’s sll computerized.

sophie,,the first two numbers are more than 5X. one is 27 and the other is 6. 5x5=25 and 5x1 is 5. I also said if counting the first gallon, then 4X more is added. I realize they started from 0. they still messed up the formula. Instead of going off the formula, perhaps the paint guy just should have been told to do a 5 gal mix at 75%. period.

jon robinson,,, do you like the color on the smaller one up on the wall? or you don't like either one of the colors?

Either do regular accessible beige, or perhaps try BM Pale Oak.

or Revere pewter. Accessible beige is on the taupe/pink end so try going in another direction if it's too pink in your room.

This is why whenever customers talk about doing a half formula or cutting the color by some percentage because that's what they did on HGTV, I just say 'please pick a different color.' There are thousands of colors to choose from. In this case, even if the color in the 5 gallon buckets is the exact same as the color in the gallon can, you may think it isn't because you don't like the color.

There are idiot bloggers posting new content daily telling people that not only is cutting formulas okay, it's a good idea, the perfect solution.

I lost count of the emails - with links to said idiotic blog posts - in my inbox pleading for help because of the mess made by a cut formula.

Truth is they are, unfortunately, expensive messes to clean up.

Why not just pick the lighter color further down the paint card? It's the same color isn't it, just a lighter version.

Edited because I left out 2 very important words.

It's the same color, just a lighter version.

That's another bit of bad color info that's rampant across the interwebs.

It's not true.

Kind of goes a long with the nonsense that you can look at the darkest color on the strip to get an idea of the "undertone" of all the other colors above it.

A series of colors from light to dark is called a string.

The only color collection that I know of that has strips of colors that are actual strings - one color let down in purposefully formulated steps darker to lighter to create additional, related colors - is the Benjamin Moore Color Preview collection.

Every other fandeck in every other brand out there has a mix of colors on the color strips. Can't even count on all the colors being in the same hue family.

Sorry, my post was supposed to say, It's the same color, isn't it? I was asking, not stating fact.

the label on one can says egg shell IFC-411XN

the label on the other says egg shell FM-8000DE

what is the meaning of these codes?

(I 'm asking because we had slight color difference from what the sample was, in one room-and the store told us painters used same color but from their cheaper line. Which apparently can influence the color?)

Using different lines shouldn't affect the color. The difference you are most likely seeing is because the sheen level is slightly different between the 2 lines.

Y’all, I know I’m way late to the party here but those of you saying the numbers don‘t add up for 5 x 1, don’t understand how these formulas work and you aren’t taking account for the numbers in the 64 and 128 column. One 64th is half of a drop of one 32nd, and one 128th is half of a 64th. So you also have to multiple those out. They took the single gallon formula and they multiplied it out by 5 because you need to add more tint to account for more paint (The computer auto does this) and it equals out perfect. The numbers underneath the “extra white” are the sales numbers. The single gallon bucket and 5 gallon bucket clearly wont have the same sales numbers because they are different size containers. Just like how a small shirt and a large shirt won’t have the same upc code at your local clothing store. The color matches. The homeowner is just thinking it doesn’t because they aren’t understanding out formulas/math is working here.