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shower leak/silicone

8 years ago
Hi all,

A year after a gut reno, my shower started leaking down to the lower floor. We traced it to the join/gap where the curb meets the shower tiles. (See pic)

Original contractor applied silicone sealant along the bottom of the curb. This seems to have fixed the leak. According to him, this is a long term solution. What do you all think? How about cleaning? Do bleach chemicals/abrasives peel off silicone? How long does the sealant last?

Thank you

Comments (15)

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Silicone is a flexible joint between two planes not meant as waterproofing. Your leak is likely the result of a breach in the waterproofing system (whatever was or wasn't used) under the tile. The silicone may be slowing down the water flow right now, but not for long.


  • 8 years ago

    He’s a hack, and created a leaking shower because he didn’t know what he is doing. It’s not built correctly. Period.

    Get as much of the $1.98 back that you can, and hire someone that knows what they are doing to redo it completely. It won’t be $1.98.

    https://www.ceramictilefoundation.org/homeowners-guide-to-hiring-qualified-tile-installer

  • 8 years ago
    So no other solution than to retile and install a new curb? Ugh.... and the glass needs to uninstalled as well. What a headache. Can it be a partial install of just that section?

    Any other options?

    Thank you
  • 8 years ago

    Not just retile, but probably demo and start over. The tile is a “decorative cover” placed over a waterproof shower. Your shower is not waterproof.

    Was this worked permitted and inspected?

  • 8 years ago

    Watch this ten minute video on what should have been done before the tile was laid. If it was done correctly you should never had a leak.


    Note: Just using KBRS product install as an example and I am not endorsing them. Most manufacturers of shower kits use the same basic install procedures.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=293&v=jO01rUUObkw



  • PRO
    8 years ago

    "So no other solution than to retile and install a new curb? Ugh.... and the glass needs to uninstalled as well. What a headache. Can it be a partial install of just that section?
    Any other options?"


    Sam:


    You may be able to get a custom solid surface pan fabricated and installed for less work and hassle than a tear-out, but no guarantee.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Looks to me, like you may have a place for water to get in on the upper left hand side of the curb in your picture.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Water coming in anywhere is a non-issue if the bottom of the shower, under the tile, is not waterproof. It is a tear-out, the professionals are telling him.


    Tile and grout are not a waterproof system. Grout is permeable. There must be a waterproof layer under the tile layer for a tile shower to be waterproof.

  • 8 years ago
    Thank you all. I did see them put down liner and concrete under the tile.

    Cat are you referring to the corner by the glass? Flat side?

    Unfortunately no this project was not reviewed by the building department.

    How involved is the partial tear down? Any info i can find online?

    I am considering ...telling the contractor I will live with this for now, but when it starts leaking again. He redos the work or we share the cost. Tbh, the reno took 5 miserable months last year and i really don’t want to deal with him anymore.

    His angle is it’s the architect”s fault. Architect suggested a more complicated solution as the shower area is quite big and open- open concept with free standing tub . However, this is just a curb that doesn’t work. Its not like water is flowing over the threshold. BS.
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Sam, the water may not flowing be over the threshold. It may be seeping through the floor.

    This is not a partial tear down.

    There is a lot of info online.

    Can you use google?

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, Sam, thats the area, I was referring to. I have to agree, this is probably a total tear out, but, please do not hire the same contractor. Do your research well, and find someone that actually knows what they are doing. Its better to pay some extra money to get it done correctly, and it will last for years, than to pay less, and end up having to redo in a yr or less. If you could be there when it is redone, that would even be better. Watch those videos, and read all about proper installation, and waterproofing, and materials to use, and then be a guard dog, and watch your contractor like a hawk, and make sure it is all done 100 percent correctly. If you see even one little thing, being done differently, or not right, question it immediately and make sure it is redone. Your contractor may not like working for you, but, thats not really important. What is important is the job done right.

  • 8 years ago
    Just an FYI, cement is not waterproof. In fact it’s like a giant sponge. Next time keep an eye on the waterproofing closely and do some research first.
  • 8 years ago

    Jack hammer time.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I am willing to bet that if you ask the guy if he did a Shower Pan Flood Test as required by code.

    He would ask.. "What is that??"