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Rose Trees - what's best on the patio?

Zone 8a.

The demise of an oversized tilting umbrella has opened up some more space on my patio. I have several roses in pots out there, but only one in the ground (a polyantha, Aunt Margy's Rose) - for the simple reason that I have very little dirt.


As of this writing, I have Rockwall Sesquecentennial (ARE Pioneer rose, light pink, 2 1/2 inch diameter), Aunt Margy's Rose, General Schablikine (in a whiskey barrel), my minifloras which will stay in their one-gallon pots for a year, Winter Sun (Kordes), Ebb Tide, and Dr. Grill (all in large pots). The minifloras will range from white-and-pink to yellow, with Deja Blu thrown in - but who knows how that will actually look when it blooms.


For the rose tree(s?) I'm thinking deep pink, which so far means either:

Grande Dame

All My Lovin

Pretty Lady Rose


Grande Dame would be my first choice, but I understand it droops. Will that be so bad on the tree rose? Otherwise it sounds perfect. Likes hot-dry conditions too.

All My Lovin has only "moderate" fragrance.

PLR is described as "moderately strong peony" -- ohkaay. I'll know that when I smell it.


Rose trees would provide a visual "lift", so I'd prefer full-sized ones.

What do you think? How big a pot would I need?


Thanks,

Sylvia


Comments (11)

  • 7 years ago

    I now reside in inland SoCal, about 30 miles north of LA, where it is often windy and, in summer, almost always hot hot hot. No rain since April.

  • 7 years ago

    Austins are a possibility too. "Sophy's Rose" looks terrific. Anyone growing it? Is it more of a "light red" or a "dark pink"? Looks like the latter to me.

  • 7 years ago

    I love Sophy's rose and have grown her for years, very reliable bloomer. Her color fades quite a bit in the heat though, and in your climate I think you'd be looking at a rather pink rose.

    SylviaWW 9a Hot dry SoCal thanked Baboosic z5b NH
  • 7 years ago

    Here are some photos- the first is to the left of where rose trees would go.

    The lantanas will stay. The cycad, not so sure. The begonias were there when we moved in - they could go, but I'm reluctant since they look so good these days (thank you, drip irrigation).

    Here's the right side of the patio. You can see the umbrella base which will be gone!

    The yellow bloom on the left is my first miniflora - Hello Sunshine. My Ebb Tides are mostly pink at this point. The yellow bloom in the center should actually be pink - it's Dr. Grill.

    Winter Sun is on the right.

    Thanks all!

  • 7 years ago

    I can't help you with the rose trees, but I wouldn't consider getting rid of the cycad! What an amazing plant and you have the conditions to grow it outside. Colour me jealous! It really adds to the excitement to have different plant and leaf forms and to me, makes the roses even more spectacular.

  • 7 years ago

    Soft Whisper HT rose tree repeats pretty fast, I checked for you this past weekend. It’s not hot pink though.

    I have combined some roses with rose trees due to too many potted roses. You could do the same with other plants as rose tree foot cover.

    SylviaWW 9a Hot dry SoCal thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 7 years ago

    I can't help with specific suggestions, but I wanted to say that I think standard roses are a great idea in that area on the patio. I can picture them there. To me they have a sort of formality that would look lovely in that location.

    SylviaWW 9a Hot dry SoCal thanked pippacovalent
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks, all! First, though, I have to get rid of the large, broken umbrella and stand ... In my old neighborhood, you could just put things out on the street and they'd be gone in two hours. Here, we are behind gates and it's, well, different.

    As soon as I clear the space, I'll make my order. I'll let you know!

    Sylvia

  • 7 years ago

    Question: can a nurseryman or woman create a tree rose, for a customer? Has this ever happened? Or is this insanity? Might cost a bunch, too ...

    I'm not pleased with the selections at my local nurseries, and the only mail order source I can find for standard roses is Austin -- and they're crazy expensive (esp. shipping).

    I would love to have a tree of Love and Peace or Dream Come True ... thinking more about a blend now. I miss the Granadas and stripeys I had at the old house. L&P and DCT don't seem to exist as standard roses, although they are quite common as HTs.

    What if I called up my local rose nursery (Otto's, in my case) and asked them to create a standard rose for me, using one of these well-known HTs? Is this completely preposterous, or not?

    Thanks,

    Sylvia

  • 7 years ago

    I seem to recall ringing somewhere that Burling from Burlington roses will bud tree roses to order. You might want to send you an email just to ask.