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Victorian meets rustic - design dilemma!

7 years ago

30+ years ago we bought a charming turn of the century home in a mid-sized town. Since my (then) husband and I loved antiques, it called our name - loud and clear (pre-blight chestnut doors; hardwood floors; high ceilings, wide molding) - it was so 'us'! We spent the next 10 years or so furnishing it with period pieces (but inexpensive - since we were young and just starting out - lol), trying to bring it back, at least somewhat, to its former charm (after it was 'restored' in the 70's). Although the ol' gal probably had a part in ending the marriage (not a sad ending, we are still the best of friends :-) -- as the years went on, I also changed. I longed to leave the 'city-life' on a teeny-tiny lot and breath in the country air! 10 years ago I fell in love with a place nestled deep in the woods - and knew this was going to be my retirement home (see view from my deck!). The house was secondary at the time; I think even if it was a shack, I would have bought the house -- since I loved the location and the huge 2 car garage with a loft - lol! Well, fast forward 10 years and I am now a recent retiree - in the process of cleaning out 30 years of accumulation to downsize into my country cabin (note to self - never, ever, buy so much stuff again!!). Well, now reality is hitting me right between the eyes. Back in the 80's, homes and communities were sprouting up like trees in northeastern PA. With that came plain, simple housing - with no architectural style what-so-ever! :-). My 'cabin' is covered from floor to ceiling in T-111 - in every room. Although wonderful for those who prefer 'zero maintenance' - it sure is tiring on some level - and now I am faced with a huge design dilemma. I do plan to either pickle or paint some of the T-111 -- since I am not totally adverse to the look in this house (it is small and box-like -- no sense in making it what it isn't :-); but it's a perfect retirement home). So here is the question for all of you who have an eye for the eclectic :-)


I do plan to bring as much of my existing furniture that I can to my 'new' house -- first, because I like it; second, because it is better quality than what I could afford from today's choices; and third, my budget says 'slow down - you're retired; spend on what you need, not what you want' -lol! So first rooms first: the master bedroom - and your challenge for those who wish to embark on such a mammoth task....


My existing furniture is 1930s/40's Queen Anne style mahogany (see photos) - our first purchase for the ol' gal and although well-worn, I still love it! The master bedroom in the cabin, however, is much larger (so I'll be able to add my mirrored vanity that never fit before) - it has rustic wide-planked flooring and (what else?!) T-111 walls - lol! Came with the house is a queen sized brass bed - which I kind of like, too. The room boasts two large windows (south and east side) looking into the woods so it is plenty bright. So my challenge to you designers -- how do I tie this together? I do plan to paint the T-111 to help with this but I also think it it also needs some accessories that will bring the look (Victorian-rustic - ha ha!) together. I do not have any night-stands -- so I am now on the hunt for them; but I think those night-stands will be an integral part of bringing the look all together, so before I select them I thought now would be a good time to get some ideas on accessories, and the nightstands, before I make a mess of things. Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions!











Comments (33)

  • 7 years ago

    You might get more useful comments if you reduce the verbiage in your post, that’s a lot to read that doesn’t really impact the design aspect. You should have time left to edit your post....

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks, richfield95, for your feedback! Although I can't disagree, I think Houzz readers like stories (as we all seem to love to hear about the background of a design transformation) -- and it adds a personal touch. :-) Thanks, again!

  • 7 years ago

    Huge dogs. The bed and floor is nice the walls not so much. Paint the walls leave the trim alone. can the bed face the closet wall so you have a view of outside? Great vanity but better without the mirror

  • 7 years ago

    Not enough photos except to say, keep the brass bed and let the Queen Anne stuff go.

  • 7 years ago
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    Would need more pics to give much specific help. How many bedrooms are in this charming cabin? What struck me was this sentence....."I do plan to bring as much of my existing furniture that I can to my 'new' house.....". Why? You are embarking on a new adventure in a new home in a new stage of life. Go thru your new home,make a simple furniture plan room by room and sure, absolutely shop your old house first but accept that plenty of things aren't going to make the journey. Yes,even some things that may physically fit but just aren't optimal. Even lovely furniture that you may still appreciate. Now,I am NOT trying to get you to buy more or to ditch the Queen Anne. Far from it. (& in fact, I'd suggest no nightstand buying...not yet) Nor do I think you should abandon your personal style. This is a great opportunity to embrace it. Just be very picky as you go thru all those 30 years of accumulating and allow the new space to be YOUR best version of itself.


    All that said, please share more pics. Your 'dilemma' and how it will evolve,especially because you have an aesthetic POV and history, is interesting. And as I said,the cabin in the woods looks utterly charming.


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  • 7 years ago

    tl;dr!! I mean, wow!


    I have no idea what you're asking. I guess T-111 is the knotty wall boarding? I'd prime and paint the heck out of that, or remove it from some rooms. Again, too much story, and what on earth is the question?!?

  • 7 years ago

    paint out the wall board...

  • 7 years ago
    Do you know if there is anything behind the paneling? Or was it nailed right to the studs? What year was the cabin built? Is that the paneling in the windows(jambs), or real wood? Remove a light switch cover, that should reveal if there is anything behind the paneling. Also check the insides of the closets, as most people don't think to redo them. I would consider changing the doors to something with an older look.
  • 7 years ago

    TLDR.

    T-111 is designed for exterior use, not interior, where it's viewed close-up. It's meant to be viewed from a distance.

    The 3-panel/6-panel door style doesn't go with the walls.

  • 7 years ago

    Good story. Is the question which stuff to bring? Or what paint color palette you want for the house to give a unified look?


    Since you love the mahogany furniture, you can find new or used nightstands in a similar wood and finish. There are many, many consignment stores with lots of good quality items from the 70's and 80's.

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  • 7 years ago

    Get rid of the T111 and keep the mahogany!!

    Keep the dogs too! I think the mahogany will look good with the flooring.

    Although a cabin can be rustic, if you keep the interior in the period pieces you are describing then it should be okay.

    Most pros will tell you the interior should match the exterior, but those living in McMansions do what we like!!

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  • 7 years ago

    Thank you to those that read my story - sorry for the length but I thought it would be fun to share. Sorry if I ruffled so many feathers with my story. For those that skimmed: in a nutshell - I am keeping the Queen Anne furniture, the brass bed, the wide plank floors, and the T-111 [to be painted or pickled] (and the dogs :-) -- but am fully aware that these two styles are direct opposites. However, I have seen folks do this successfully by adding accent pieces that tie it all together. That is what I was asking of any folks that have that 'eye': what do you suggest for accent pieces, and the new nightstands. Since I do not have matching QA nightstands, I am aware I will be adding yet another element into the mix - so I thought this would be part of the 'tie-in' -- unless you recommend that I seek out a close match. The cabin was built in 1988.

  • 7 years ago

    Nice view from the porch.

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  • 7 years ago

    dvd, no feathers ruffled!

    We do better with paragraphs and spaces instead of one long sentence! I find it hard to read my computer monitor, must be my age!

    You are doing fine and thanks for sticking with it!!

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  • 7 years ago

    @ kootenaycapable - the T-111 (fully aware this was made for the exterior, and barnwood, at that - I did not put it up -- but it was all the rage in NE PA in the 80s; it was cheap and it made these small modest homes look rustic) - it is attached directly to the studs, in lieu of drywall.

  • 7 years ago

    I think that Queen Anne can live happily in a more rustic environment...However, that T111 doesn't look rustic. It looks like it needs to go live somewhere else :)

    In other words, it's a bit TOO rustic (a la prefab sheds and state park toilets)


    Please, consider getting rid of it. You and your furniture will be much happier.

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  • 7 years ago

    Adirondack Great Camps.

    In other words, this has already been done. By people with a lot more money and resources than you have.

  • 7 years ago

    @pennydesign - lol! Not disagreeing with you, though! :-) Believe it or not, I saw a room with painted T-111, on Pinterest, that was incredible!! I was excited seeing that someone could make T-111 look so good! I did an extensive search and found out who the contractor was -- some guy in California. He gave me some tips on how he achieved the look -- but then also said it is becoming quite popular in his area! :-) After 10 years, I am beginning to get used to it - although when I first saw it (on all the walls!!) - I wasn't too impressed. :-) If the paint works as well as the guy in CA states, I plan to cut it like wainscotting, trim it, paint it, and finish up the upper portion in drywall. I think that will tone it down a bit in the main rooms...while keeping the 'rustic' feel.

  • 7 years ago

    @fori - oh wow -- I never thought of that! That house would burn down in minutes (there is literally no drywall in the house - it is entirely paneled in T-111!) - I wonder how they got away with it in those days (but PA has been known for it's 'lack of following code' - only recently have I heard people even talking about getting permits and such for home renovations).

  • 7 years ago

    Fori: It's not weird at all. People are volunteering their time; it is the responsibility of the person asking for free help to make it as easy as possible for the people giving freely of their time and expertise.

    This isn't Facebook.

    And even if it were Facebook. Those huge paragraphs are just a sea of grey on the computer monitor. Remember basic 4th-grade English Grammar? A paragraph is a sentence or group of sentences expressing a single thought.

    It's important to make it easy on the reader.

  • 7 years ago

    I thought your story was charming. Though I will admit that I sometimes tune out long initial posts. I started to read yours and was glad I did.

    I think that T-111 looks bad and I think it will never go with your furniture.

    Your point of view is so precise and unique and challenging that I think you would be happy paying a designer who can go through all of your stuff and help you get the look that you want.

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  • 7 years ago

    I don't know what t111 is exactly though--if it's an exterior product and not wood it might be totally fine from a flamey point of view.

    Fori, who has never been on Facebook

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  • 7 years ago

    @Fori - it's basically pretty plywood - 100% wood (except for the glue that adheres the layers together) - all the rage in the 60s to the 80s. :-) But, since you mentioned, I searched: it has the highest flammability rating of just about any product used in a house (which is why it should be correctly used outdoors for barns and sheds); basically no fire stopping capability - lol! Sadly, the amount of money and time it would take to remove all of the walls in the entire house and replace it with drywall, would be prohibitive - as much as I would like to. I guess I'll have to invest in more smoke detectors...and hope God has assigned a good guardian angel for me. :-) Diane, who has never been on Facebook. :-)

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    If you feel that this charming story is too much for you...then scroll on by :) That's the beauty of this forum...

    Fori, you sometimes see (in the US) T111 on sheds that you can buy at Home Depot or Lowes...Occasionally on the exterior of summer fishing-type cottages or, as I said, state park bathrooms. It's very rough.

    Dvd has yours at least been sanded smooth?

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  • 7 years ago

    Thanks, pennydesign :-) Smooth? not much :-) Even has knot holes - lol! I seriously have no idea what the original owner was thinking when he decided on this. With such a lovely view, I'm surprised he did not invest a few dollars on drywall. But for better or for worse, I love the house - T111 and all. :-) - it has everything that I need and more! thanks!

  • 7 years ago

    Victorian stuff can be very frou frou and fussy, maybe you could incorporate some simpler antique things to bridge the gap, or some things that have an industrial vibe like antique metal cabinets, metal lamps etc.

  • 7 years ago

    Maybe embrace the contrast rather than attempting to make it look like it belongs? Put silk drapes up to the windows and fabulous mirrors on the rustic walls?


    To give you an idea, you can look at some photos of the interiors of log cabins (yes, I know yours isn't like that, but it's just an example of what works)... Some of them make no attempt at tying anything in with the building...





    I would get all my furniture in (don't get rid of anything yet) and see how it looks, as is. You just may want to emphasize the difference, rather than try to make it look like it belongs...


  • 7 years ago

    Enjoy retirement, your cabin, the woodland, water, view & beautiful dogs and QA furniture! Your cabin looks like a peaceful treasure.

  • 7 years ago

    Love your view. Love your Great Danes.

    I would stain the 'paneling' white. Rustic white walls with the mahogany furniture would work together for me. I would add some rag or braided rugs and a patchwork quilt.

    PS I didnt think your post was too long. People can scroll on by or engage. It's a choice.

  • 7 years ago
    Congratulations on your cabin! I think that I know exactly what you are trying to do aesthetically. One of my favorite special-occasion places is Stout's Island Lodge in Birchwood, Wisconsin. If you Google its website, you will find some inspiration photos.
  • 7 years ago

    Wow -- great ideas are flowing in! I wish I had your vision -- then I wouldn't need to ask for advice - lol! ;-) Excellent!

    @Elaine Ricci - wow - what a beautiful lodge - you nailed it! And I would love to go there some day. :-) It must be an incredible vacation destination.

    @localeater -- thanks! :-) and the Danes love the place too. Excellent idea!! - rustic white would look incredible with the dark floors and mahogany - and wouldn't scream 'over the top rustic' (or 'park bathroom look' - lol!) And I love the quilt idea too. Thank you!!

    @eandhl2 - I've waited 10 years to finally call it home :-) Fortunately it was close enough for weekend get-a-ways or mini vacations -- but to know that I won't have to go 'back to the city' someday, will be a dream come true (but that may be awhile off with all the de-cluttering I have to do in my old house -- oh my - when will it ever end! :-). Hopefully the ol' gal sells quickly this spring - summertime is ideal at the lake. Yes - and very peaceful -- no boats allowed except kayaks and row boats or small electric ones for fishing. I do love it - T111 and all! :-)

    @pennydesign - hmmm...what a concept - embrace the contrast! I like it! I like the suggestion photo too - cool! :-)

    @J Williams - another great idea! I may even have some of that stuff already. :-)


    But listening to you all - with so many incredible suggestions, I am certain painting is first on my agenda. I think that was where my struggle was coming from -- imagining anything against such a 'charming' backdrop of T-111 was just throwing me for a loop. Doing some research, there have been some folks that suggest skipping the removal part and just affixing the drywall right on the 'paneling' -- while others say, if you are going to do it, do it right -- and it will give you a chance to see what's behind those walls. More to think about -- but I'm really starting to seriously consider trying the paint route first. All say it is a huge amount of work, though, so I'm not sure what is best -- if nothing else, if it does take too much work or looks terrible, then decision is made - drywall over it. Again, thank you so much -- I am inspired and uplifted....and so happy some of you enjoyed my story. Thank you for your kindness. :-)

  • 7 years ago

    Not a Pro.


    Really scanned all above....so forgive me if this has been mentioned.


    Have you considered painting the furniture instead to make the room work. A pretty aqua on the furniture with that beautiful bed. Area Rug bringing in all colors. No need to touch the walls,


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